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Old 05-24-2012, 04:31 AM   #1
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55$, line check with AA

Villain was moved 2 hands ago to the table, no reads
comments on all post-flop streets are appreciated
pre is whatever, I can raise more, but I decided not to

NL Holdem $60(BB) Replayer
SB ($12,780)
BB ($5,150)
UTG ($5,000)
UTG+1 ($17,860)
UTG+2 ($992)
MP1 ($6,595)
CO ($10,365)
Hero ($8,832)

Dealt to Hero A A

fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to $120, fold, BB calls $60

FLOP ($270) 2 7 9

BB bets $120, Hero raises to $360, BB raises to $600, Hero calls $240

TURN ($1,470) 2 7 9 3

BB bets $660, Hero calls $660

RIVER ($2,790) 2 7 9 3 T

BB bets $1,020, Hero calls $1,020
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Old 05-24-2012, 06:20 AM   #2
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Re: 55$, line check with AA

there is no reason to 2x pre

vs someone decent (or the old passive nitguy)i'd just flat flop and fold turn, a random's b3b b b range is mostly > 1p so fold river as played in a vacuum
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Old 05-24-2012, 07:00 AM   #3
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Re: 55$, line check with AA

Agree with furo...pre really should be bigger...

Why raise the flop lead? There are just not that many draws and we are behind his bet 3 bet range...just flat and flat a lot of turns and decide more based on cards/ sizings.

With the super dry board his hands are weighted toward value and without any reads his line suggests 2 pair+
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Old 05-24-2012, 07:16 AM   #4
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Re: 55$, line check with AA

I like raising a polarized range OTF. We're on the button so it we'll look bluffy anyway.

I want to play for stacks on the flop basically.
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Old 05-24-2012, 07:55 AM   #5
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Re: 55$, line check with AA

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I want to play for stacks on the flop basically.
That seems absurdly optimistic vs an unknown, 85BB deep.
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Old 05-24-2012, 09:02 AM   #6
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Re: 55$, line check with AA

Think you played this hand really bad tbh. Don't like the raise on the flop considering he could have lots of hands that beat you given your pre-flop sizing.

But after how the flop played out you really have to be folding the turn to a bet out here.
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Old 05-24-2012, 09:48 AM   #7
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Re: 55$, line check with AA

I think it's played perfectly (other than pre, I make it 150 but that is pretty whatever). I might fold to bigger sizing on the turn/river but never to this. Not raising the flop seems insane to me, it's a $55 tourney against a random, not raising is missing huge value.
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Old 05-24-2012, 09:52 AM   #8
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Re: 55$, line check with AA

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there is no reason to 2x pre

vs someone decent (or the old passive nitguy)i'd just flat flop and fold turn, a random's b3b b b range is mostly > 1p so fold river as played in a vacuum
b/3b is a strong line, I agree, however don't you think that his range changes a lot when he bets so small on the turn?
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Old 05-24-2012, 10:14 AM   #9
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b/3b is a strong line, I agree, however don't you think that his range changes a lot when he bets so small on the turn?
yea not folding turn here, i'd fold turn vs someone decent.
sorry if this sounded odd.
but i'd fold river.
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Old 05-24-2012, 10:48 AM   #10
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That seems absurdly optimistic vs an unknown, 85BB deep.
but we has AA on 9 7 2 rainbow vs a random who decided to donk lead into us! If he has 2 pair or a set he can have my chips.
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Old 05-24-2012, 10:56 AM   #11
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Re: 55$, line check with AA

We do great vs his b/c range, probably decent vs his b/3b range, but I'm really curious for a b/3b/get-it-in-vs-our-4bet range we do well against. We even block A9
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Old 05-24-2012, 11:30 AM   #12
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Re: 55$, line check with AA

I go back and forth on raising the flop lead. It's obv not bad, but against a lot of random donks I would expect their lead range to be too weak to raise. i.e. a ton of players will c/r if they have top pair+ in a spot like this but will lead mid or bottom pair (as well as a variety of bluffs, though they prob still c/r draws on a board like this given it's btn vs. bb).

Yeah, I like flatting the flop a little better.

Obv getting it in on the flop is absurd unless villain is a gigantic fish.

As played it's fine I guess. I feel like we should be folding somewhere but I can't really find a spot to do it.
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Old 05-24-2012, 11:51 AM   #13
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Re: 55$, line check with AA

Lol at folding anywhere you passive tards. Agree with greg. At least call down especially vs the small sizing.
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Old 05-24-2012, 12:03 PM   #14
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Re: 55$, line check with AA

agree with everything furo said. folding river
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Re: 55$, line check with AA

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there is no reason to 2x pre

vs someone decent (or the old passive nitguy)i'd just flat flop and fold turn, a random's b3b b b range is mostly > 1p so fold river as played in a vacuum
Furo destroyed it in first attempt.

What raise/4b/xb-shove otf, Gregz? Dry enough board.
And what 120 pre, someone would spazz a lot pre ante?
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