after 61 hands he has 15/13/0 and i have been playing 18/15/13

what would you do here?

50xBB deep effective, not that deep. I would push the flop for 2/3 pot more. Don't think he usually has AA beat when he donks this flop.

jam flop
not close

I think it's a little closer than others are saying.

I'd consider how I feel I stack up against the field. Here's a series of questions I ask myself at times, though admit I maybe shouldn't as it leads me to make some questionable decisions:


What's my equity vs. his range (obvious)?

Assuming hero wins, how much better are his chances of making a significant cash (top 3) with the new stack (58k vs. 33k) at the current tourney level?

Assuming hero loses, how much worse are his chances of making a significant cash with his new stack (14k vs. 33k) at the current tourney level?

Why would he donk bet in the unlikely situation he has us beaten? To fold out AK/AQ/AJ? Why not just check and let us fire?

If you seriously consider folding HU 50bb deep with AA here, can you tell what kind of flops you would like in order not to fold to a donk bet?

actually i am never thinking folding here. the question is what line should i follow. do i jam the flop? or call and let him put more in the pot?

jam the flop.. too many bad turn cards that you will have to fold

i think is easy fold . u dont have H blocker so he maybe catch set or straight/fd draw so i dont want to risk here.

+1 a mirrion. Shove it all day, shove it all night, shove it before you wake up in the morning.

Folding here is criminal, flatting is even more criminal, that leaves one thing:


Le Shovaments

WTF huh WAT?

W A T

Oh, I get it, this is a funny level.. LOL ! You got me, I'm laughing.

I always jam flop. If he had a made hand 90% of the time he would c/c or c/r he's being pretty tricky playing like this and tip your hat to him if he has it hand takes 2/3 of your stack

Little smaller pre
Jam flop, hold vs TT

villain is 15/13.
Greg do u agree with consensus?
I guess we often ahead otf, but his lead big/f range is pretty thin, we block all dumb A8-9 though he has 0 of them anyway and l/c range has ton of equity vs AA.

though I agree its weird for him to lead made hands.

Its not wierd to lead a made hand at all. You do it when this board doesnt hit the 3b's range and you think he is likely to check back.

If the 3b has a cbetting leak then obv go for the x/r

I'm not saying I think shoving is wrong, I just don't think it's as straight forward and clear-cut as others are advocating.

And to answer your question re: the donk bet, think about the many draw+pair hands that would have a positive coin flip against an overpair here. Would it be that unreasonable for these hands to lead? I think two pair hands would lead some portion of the time here as well, as well as sets due to the draw-heavy board.

In fact, I can see villain leading most anything that has us beat here due to fearing the check-behind by us and seeing a scare card OTT, of which there are many.