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Old 12-02-2011, 07:38 PM   #1
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55$ 680 players 129 left

vilain is 18/14

any1 3bet here? standard fold?



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    SB: 13,475 (22.5 bb)
    BB: 7,039 (11.7 bb)
    UTG+2: 15,169 (25.3 bb)
    MP1: 20,474 (34.1 bb)
    MP2: 13,482 (22.5 bb)
    MP3: 10,699 (17.8 bb)
    Hero (CO): 13,929 (23.2 bb)
    BTN: 5,353 (8.9 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is CO with K Q
    3 folds, MP3 raises to 1,200, Hero folds

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    Old 12-02-2011, 07:58 PM   #2
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    Re: 55$ 680 players 129 left

    correct? if not, how many bb do I need to have left to shove AQ here?



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      : 41,760 (69.6 bb)
      : 10,975 (18.3 bb)
      BTN: 11,978 (20 bb)
      SB: 7,959 (13.3 bb)
      BB: 27,674 (46.1 bb)
      UTG+1: 13,332 (22.2 bb)
      UTG+2: 11,120 (18.5 bb)
      Hero (MP1): 11,279 (18.8 bb)
      : 6,603 (11 bb)

      Preflop: Hero is MP1 with Q A
      2 folds, Hero raises to 11,229 and is all-in

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      Old 12-02-2011, 08:01 PM   #3
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      Re: 55$ 680 players 129 left

      I think all options are somewhat close, even a call with intention of calling a shove from BTN / BB (if MP3 folds) isnt terrible getting ~ 2 to 1. If we 3bet it's for the blockers not to get any value and we obv have to call a 4bet vs BTN/BB for half our stack with K high against an obv much worse range than if flatted. Think I just fold and wait for a better spot to play back.
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      Old 12-02-2011, 08:26 PM   #4
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      I think all options are somewhat close, even a call with intention of calling a shove from BTN / BB (if MP3 folds) isnt terrible getting ~ 2 to 1. If we 3bet it's for the blockers not to get any value and we obv have to call a 4bet vs BTN/BB for half our stack with K high against an obv much worse range than if flatted. Think I just fold and wait for a better spot to play back.
      any idea if hand2 is correct? Blinds were growing to 400/800 next hand BUT I did not know with 400/800 blinds I was at 13.5 BB and blinds coming in front of me BUT I took the decision without knowing that
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      Old 12-02-2011, 08:55 PM   #5
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      Re: 55$ 680 players 129 left

      Hand 1 MP3 is opening with a bunch of shortstacks behind so easy fold.
      Hand 2 no need to shove, just open.
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      Old 12-02-2011, 10:37 PM   #6
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      Re: 55$ 680 players 129 left

      hand 1: dont think flatting here is to good, only think that makes sense is 3bet jamming or folding.

      this depends on if mp3 is a thinking player and what he thinks of the short stacks and us, if they have been playing really tight he may defiantly be doing this to wide with a fairly tight r/c range, if they have been active its an easy fold because hes going to be opening tigher/calling loser.

      hand 2: meh shoving is not terrible, but i like raise/getting it in alot better
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      Old 12-03-2011, 01:26 AM   #7
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      Hand 1 MP3 is opening with a bunch of shortstacks behind so easy fold.
      Hand 2 no need to shove, just open.
      big error if I shoved ?
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      Old 12-03-2011, 02:58 AM   #8
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      Re: 55$ 680 players 129 left

      1. Easy fold

      2. r/c. Somre reshoving stacks.
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      Old 12-03-2011, 07:37 AM   #9
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      Re: 55$ 680 players 129 left

      1. Fold 2. R/c >>>>>>> open shove
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      Old 12-03-2011, 08:45 AM   #10
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      Re: 55$ 680 players 129 left

      Hand 1-fold
      Hand 2-R/c
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      Old 12-03-2011, 02:43 PM   #11
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      Re: 55$ 680 players 129 left

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      big error if I shoved ?
      not an error at all, just not the best option.
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      Old 12-03-2011, 07:52 PM   #12
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      Re: 55$ 680 players 129 left

      Shoving hand 2 is +cEV but its a waste of a good hand.
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