Regardless, great play by villain. Shows the strength of a good c/r OTT when hero and villain both having significant amount of chips to play with. As long as the bet reps between 1/4 and 1/3 of villain's stack...and hero has enough behind to shove river for essentially AI for both players...this play is pure gold.

check behind on turn. he makes that play everytime

Not true. Bizzare thing to say that he can have no range that c/c's a turn bet.

I think you check behind and call a river bet if another heart doesn't come. Just me. probably wrong.

While we will be good some of the times we call, it's a result of our checking and letting him value bet thinner. We still run into flushes inevitably. Checking back has merits and might be optimal in some spots but I think we should b/f the turn to get value from the weaker parts of his range.

but if you are going to bet fold to a min raise you might as well check.

This is being results oriented. Its obviously a bit tougher of a decision vs a min raise (or at least feels like it at the time) but its not like we 1) can expect villain to raise every time we bet and 2) min raise the times he does.

it isn't he just should not bet there. same situation i just ran in a mtt. i check called with nut flush draw. then check raised on turn flush card. the guy shoved over and his tournament is over. flat behind and lose the minimum but stay in control of pot.

This isn't a spot where you get bluffed a lot from my experience, the stack sizes make b/f a really good option on the turn. If he does have a flush then he has to raise at some point if he wants to get stacks in by the river.

You see a lot of players c/r their value range on the turn because they want to gain a cbet on the flop, let him double barrel on the turn and then c/r and take the betting lead on the the river. It's a pretty standard value line when out of position and also becoming a bit outdated imo.

When you say you don't want to bet, is it because you think he
a.) has a flush close to all the time
b.) is going to turn stuff into a bluff and put us in a bad position on the turn and river

checking when a scare card hits is something we all used to when starting out, but usually b/f and c/f are better options (c/f not applicable to this hand)

In terms of combinations, there are plenty of Ax hands he can have that we can bet for value against.

But it IS results oriented. if the min/cr happened that often we wouldn't be folding to it. But that's the point, it only really happens when they have the nuts, which won't happen nearly often enough, so your point is moot.

the turn surely is interesting. from the replys, I would then understand that the turn bet is basically for protection from a 4th rivered heart, and we do not intend to get value from e.g. non heart top pairs. thats why, I would then go for a smaller ~290 turn bet and prudely fold after or then take the check back. this sizing I do not like bcs only rarely we just get a call from a high heart without a pair. so, it would be bet small or check back for me, depending on villain.

guys just let him level...

plenty of value in b/f turn