€50 turbo, 36 ITM, 37 left.

I am the second shortest ATM (after SB on my table, who has already folded), so I bubble if I call and lose. There are maybe 5-6 stacks who have less than 10k.

I don't know villain but he was like 20/15 over small sample and he shoved without thinking. I guess he's pretty wide (I'd say somewhere between 60 and 100%).

Do you call here?

And more importantly, can somebody tell me how to make some calculations to find out whether this is a call on bubble?

Not sure how it matters but mincash was €80 and 1st was 2.2k.

Thanks.

Poker Stars €45+€5 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t600/t1200 Blinds + t150 - 7 players
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UTG+1: t15657 M = 5.49
MP: t42121 M = 14.78
CO: t27272 M = 9.57
BTN: t12736 M = 4.47
SB: t7058 M = 2.48
Hero (BB): t7133 M = 2.50
UTG: t15988 M = 5.61

Pre Flop: (t2850) Hero is BB with Q A
4 folds, BTN raises to t12586 all in, 1 fold, Hero ?

Given stack sizes this seems like a call. His range is going to be pretty wide given his chips and position. But I usually play to win so if grinding out small cashes is your goal then fold and wait until you get AA/KK or get blinded out.

I'd call and perhaps ask why we have 6BB?

personally this is such a snap shove for me...i think you have to be wayyyyyy ahead if villain is gonna be aggro on the bubble

Villain probably jams any two.
Not sure how much equity we need with the bubble factor, but I don't think this hand would be anywhere close to a fold

Oh God you're so cool and funny. I assume u felt pretty proud of yourself when writing this.

Gregz dunno if you wanted to beat the guy above you in the race for most tilting response but not knowing you as a great poster from lots of other threads (including mine) I'd say u tried hard

I guess you understand that no matter how good (aggro, loose) you play you can't guarantee that you don't end up with 6bb at any tournament (and esp. turbo). I lost 20bb flip couple hands ago if it makes any difference.

Anyway, I obviously snapped it, but I am really looking for some math guy or somebody who really understands bubble factor or some idea behind it and can explain me how to make some calculations here (lets say if we knew he shoves ATC, how do we calculate our range).

ah I didn't realise it was a turbo. I haven't done the full maths on the profability of callin in over a year now lol. If you say he's as wide as 50% (use some hold'em resources) Evaluate the cEV of the call etc, sorry for vague reply. Posting from Iphone.

Not folding AQ.

What range are you guys are calling in this spot with though?
I'm thinking ATo+, ATs+, KQs, 77+

im calling wider there, not sure if right,

about, A7s,A8,KJ, KTs,55 depending on how competent he is, if hes bad/tight maybe tighter

Guys thanks for ranges, I'd call something similar, but that's not my question. I'd like to know how to get some range here @bubble knowing exact range of shover. I know how to calculate cEV, I know how to calculate $EV in 9man SNG, but I'd like to know how it works here, I guess there exists some kind of bubble factor which combined with cEV throws out range, but I don't know how it works.

Nobody knows?

It comes down to whether your stack equity pre is > than if you fold here as to whether calling is profitable or not.

I also want to know how to calculate it, #paging pablito the math wizard.

It would be dependant on the stack sizes of everyone in the tournament so its kinda hopeless to try without knowing that. Given your hand for hand, i think it would also be dependant on the actions of everyone else at every other table... (ie. if you saw an all in, you would have to calculate all those equity changes in addition to the possible outcomes of your hand)

head asplode, hence we only use $EV at FTs.