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11-29-2016 , 08:40 PM

persianpunisher

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Winning Poker Network (Yatahay) - 50/100 NL - Holdem - 9 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

UTG: 4,198 (VPIP: 14.29, PFR: 3.57, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 28)
UTG+1: 6,557 (VPIP: 32.14, PFR: 17.86, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 28)
MP: 5,826 (VPIP: 14.81, PFR: 14.81, 3Bet Preflop: 16.67, Hands: 28)
Hero (MP+1): 2,555
MP+2: 2,700 (VPIP: 29.41, PFR: 16.67, 3Bet Preflop: 6.25, Hands: 34)
CO: 8,565 (VPIP: 21.10, PFR: 12.96, 3Bet Preflop: 2.13, Hands: 112)
BTN: 3,885 (VPIP: 16.00, PFR: 12.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 25)
SB: 12,005 (VPIP: 21.43, PFR: 3.57, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 28)
BB: 8,394 (VPIP: 25.93, PFR: 11.11, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 28)

9 players post ante of 10, SB posts SB 50, BB posts BB 100

Pre Flop: (pot: 240) Hero has A

UTG raises to 225, UTG+1 calls 225, fold, Hero?

This a shove?

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11-29-2016 , 10:27 PM

Voodoo974

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I would flat this deep vs utg and utg1.

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11-29-2016 , 10:49 PM

hoolzky

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flat, shove is ridiculous. Lets say you shove, point me one worse hand which call you.

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11-30-2016 , 12:31 AM

persianpunisher

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UTG is pretty tight and is probably folding too much to this shove, and UTG+1s stats are trending toward passive station. So we get UTG to fold too much, and UTG+1 is likely calling too wide.

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11-30-2016 , 12:41 AM

hoolzky

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yeah, much sense. UTG is tight so he open too loose from UTG and I can make profit shove with AQo(4bluff?4value? no idea what u thinking)

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11-30-2016 , 01:10 AM

hitchens97

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Shove

We have 28 hands on each of them; stats are vaguely directional at best.

We have ~25BB, and the most likely outcome is we add more than 20% to our stack

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11-30-2016 , 12:11 PM

FranklinDRooseFELT

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Seems pretty borderline/villain-dependent. If this is pre-ante then I might lean towards flatting.

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11-30-2016 , 03:40 PM

persianpunisher

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Originally Posted by hoolzky

flat, shove is ridiculous. Lets say you shove, point me one worse hand which call you.

I'm not sure if you're being a troll or not, but if you're gonna make sarcastic comments, then please have some idea of what you're talking about. Do you know what cEV is? FE? Do you understand that sometimes we get called and sometimes villains fold?

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11-30-2016 , 06:33 PM

jpgiro

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With 2555 behind and 750 already in the pot I'm jamming this. We should get folds about half the time at least and we probably need way less than that for this shove to be profitable. Add in the fact we'll probably be in a nasty spot blind wise soon I can't imagine any other option.

Last edited by jpgiro; 11-30-2016 at 06:39 PM.

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11-30-2016 , 09:35 PM

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princekuh1o

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Trivial jam re entry spot

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12-01-2016 , 08:42 AM

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U5eless Bluff

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Yeah, shove. Effective stacks of 25bbs (not deep) versus a button who cant call light, and a passive open from UTG

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12-07-2016 , 11:21 AM

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cicakman

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All in guy

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12-07-2016 , 07:29 PM

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persianpunisher

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Originally Posted by cicakman

All in guy

I'm not your guy pal! That's what I ended up doing. Wasn't sure if it was a punt or not.

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