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Old 07-12-2012, 09:52 PM   #1
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$3.3r Action Hour MM#4, gross spot 500bb deep

Action hour ended, so we`re very deep now.

They all $%^&ing donkeys.
I run 22/19/15. Flop AF - 8. Never 3bet flop before.

PokerStars - $3+$0.30|25/50 NL - Holdem - 9 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

SB: 9,940.00
BB: 24,267.00
Hero (UTG): 24,196.00
UTG+1: 15,016.00
MP: 19,009.00
MP+1: 12,080.00
LP: 20,812.00
CO: 16,794.00
BTN: 23,078.00

SB posts SB 25.00, BB posts BB 50.00

Pre Flop: (75.00) Hero has T 8

Hero raises to 150.00, UTG+1 calls 150.00, fold, fold, fold, CO calls 150.00, BTN calls 150.00, fold, BB calls 100.00

Flop: (775.00, 5 players) 5 9 7
BB checks, Hero bets 455.00, UTG+1 raises to 1,100.00, fold, BTN calls 1,100.00, BB calls 1,100.00,
Hero.....

In game I thought I have enough equity + FE to 3b/c it profitably vs any amount of callers. (pokerstove proves that).

But it`s fair to say I also have giant post-flop advantage and we`re so deep.

If you like getting it in do you 3b or 3b-shove? It`s actually a concern because they can (and sooner of all would flat it), which means we can lose equity drastically on some turns or esp when board would paired.

Board: 9d 7d 5c

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 51.226% 51.13% 00.09% 29360 54.00 { Td8d }
Hand 1: 48.774% 48.68% 00.09% 27952 54.00 { JJ-77, 55, AdQd, AdJd, A9s, Ad6d, Ad4d, KdQd, KdJd, Kd6d, 97s, 75s, A9o, 97o, 75o }

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Board: 9d 7d 5c

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 43.548% 43.33% 00.22% 1072760 5511.00 { Td8d }
Hand 1: 28.226% 27.01% 01.21% 668807 30070.50 { JJ-77, 55, AdQd, AdJd, A9s, Ad6d, Ad4d, KdQd, KdJd, Kd6d, 97s, 75s, A9o, 97o, 75o }
Hand 2: 28.226% 27.01% 01.21% 668807 30070.50 { JJ-77, 55, AdQd, AdJd, A9s, Ad6d, Ad4d, KdQd, KdJd, Kd6d, 97s, 75s, A9o, 97o, 75o }
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Old 07-12-2012, 10:08 PM   #2
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Re: $3.3r Action Hour MM#4, gross spot 500bb deep

I'd call rather than raise because button and bb are literally giving you money when they flat. The real question should be is how good are you at catching cards?
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Old 07-13-2012, 09:31 AM   #3
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Re: $3.3r Action Hour MM#4, gross spot 500bb deep

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We're all $%^&ing donkeys.
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cib or 3b/call don't flat

you should be happy when they multiple flat your reraise.
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Old 07-13-2012, 10:31 AM   #4
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Re: $3.3r Action Hour MM#4, gross spot 500bb deep

wrong forum
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Old 07-13-2012, 10:35 AM   #5
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Re: $3.3r Action Hour MM#4, gross spot 500bb deep

nah its ok here

call and be cautios when you make the draw 4way. the both flatcallers have a decent amount of draws in their range and mostly better ones.
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Old 07-13-2012, 10:37 AM   #6
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Re: $3.3r Action Hour MM#4, gross spot 500bb deep

basically what furo sad.
call, and play it like an up/down straight draw unless d arrives and betting tells you no-one else has it.
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Old 07-13-2012, 10:38 AM   #7
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Re: $3.3r Action Hour MM#4, gross spot 500bb deep

I dont like open 8Ts this deep. everyone is deep to flat you. if everyone is donkeys you will see multiway and be dogged most of the time.
Flatting with so many ppl cc'ing reraise is great.
Our straights are the nuts but fd not so much, we may end up spew.
3b/call can be massive bladed, if donkeys will just call it off 2 o/c fd type combo.

Take your huge stack atm and min variance play, raise hands that play heaps better utg.
Own positionally if you have post flop edge
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Old 07-13-2012, 10:17 PM   #8
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Old 07-13-2012, 10:39 PM   #9
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Re: $3.3r Action Hour MM#4, gross spot 500bb deep

why would you want to play a hand that can flop the nuts against a bunch of dolts 500bb deep
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Old 07-13-2012, 10:42 PM   #10
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I dont like open 8Ts this deep. everyone is deep to flat you. if everyone is donkeys you will see multiway and be dogged most of the time.
Flatting with so many ppl cc'ing reraise is great.
Our straights are the nuts but fd not so much, we may end up spew.
3b/call can be massive bladed, if donkeys will just call it off 2 o/c fd type combo.

Take your huge stack atm and min variance play, raise hands that play heaps better utg.
Own positionally if you have post flop edge
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Ur FD is probly dead..
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Old 07-13-2012, 10:57 PM   #11
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Re: $3.3r Action Hour MM#4, gross spot 500bb deep

lol better flush draws are like a pretty small part of villain's range. Td is a pretty good blocker too. People concerned about better flushes are seeing monsters under the bed. we aren't in that bad of a shape vs them. we still have 2 outs for the nut flush, 6 outs for a straight and 6 outs for a pur. 14 outs vs "the worst hand they can have" otf is very good.
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Old 07-13-2012, 11:02 PM   #12
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Re: $3.3r Action Hour MM#4, gross spot 500bb deep

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why would you want to play a hand that can flop the nuts against a bunch of dolts 500bb deep
lololol
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Re: $3.3r Action Hour MM#4, gross spot 500bb deep

fold pre is lol. This is a good hand 500xBB deep. Great in a 5-way pot like this.
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fold pre is lol. This is a good hand 500xBB deep. Great in a 5-way pot like this.
yep
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Re: $3.3r Action Hour MM#4, gross spot 500bb deep

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cib or 3b/call don't flat

you should be happy when they multiple flat your reraise.
yeah, so don't do this then complain when E_p posts something that pisses you off.

Don't troll him then call him a troll.
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