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Old 12-07-2010, 10:28 PM   #1
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$27.50 $30k - Calling range in BB vs. SB shove?

I was just wondering what a correct calling range should be in the BB vs. this SB shove...

Did not OPR villain at the time but assume is a somewhat competent player aware of fold-equity.




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CO: t24872 M = 38.26
BTN: t2461 M = 3.79
SB: t22070 M = 33.95
Hero (BB): t4205 M = 6.47
UTG: t5300 M = 8.15
UTG+1: t11609 M = 17.86
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Old 12-08-2010, 11:55 AM   #2
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Re: $27.50 $30k - Calling range in BB vs. SB shove?

22+ A2+ K9+ And I will gamble here with "pretty hands" J10s, Q10s and QJo because having a short stack sucks and with them hands we are never really crushed v the sb shoving range... Hope this helps.
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Old 12-08-2010, 05:25 PM   #3
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Re: $27.50 $30k - Calling range in BB vs. SB shove?

Need 46% equity to make this call.

Given a off the top of my head SB shoving range of 22+, A2+ , K2s+, K6o+, Q7s+, Q9o+, J8s+ , JTo, 9To, 9Ts, 89s, 78s

We can profitable call off: 22+, A2s+, A5o+, K9s+, KTo+, QTs+ so pretty close to what suited said above

Have no clue if shoving range is correct as it is very player/ situation dependent but seemed like a decent range to start playing with
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Old 12-08-2010, 05:39 PM   #4
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Re: $27.50 $30k - Calling range in BB vs. SB shove?

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Need 46% equity to make this call.

Given a off the top of my head SB shoving range of 22+, A2+ , K2s+, K6o+, Q7s+, Q9o+, J8s+ , JTo, 9To, 9Ts, 89s, 78s

We can profitable call off: 22+, A2s+, A5o+, K9s+, KTo+, QTs+ so pretty close to what suited said above

Have no clue if shoving range is correct as it is very player/ situation dependent but seemed like a decent range to start playing with
oh yea hes obv fold A2-A4o with 14bbs bvb but pushing any suited king, lol.
and hes folding 56s which would even be with 20bbs a profitable shove.
lol ur range
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Old 12-08-2010, 05:58 PM   #5
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oh yea hes obv fold A2-A4o with 14bbs bvb but pushing any suited king, lol.
and hes folding 56s which would even be with 20bbs a profitable shove.
lol ur range
He's shoving any ace per my range, we are not calling with A2o-A4o given said range. And, OK, add in 56s, other hands you would consider? Was meant to be a starting point for a type of range a "somewhat competent" player would shove in a 27.50 (doubt everyone shoves 56s for 14BBs imo). I also think a part of my game I need to put some time into is ranges which is why I figured I'd post my thoughts- you were clearly trying to be helpful and not a douche though, thanks.
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Old 12-08-2010, 06:27 PM   #6
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Re: $27.50 $30k - Calling range in BB vs. SB shove?

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He's shoving any ace per my range, we are not calling with A2o-A4o given said range. And, OK, add in 56s, other hands you would consider? Was meant to be a starting point for a type of range a "somewhat competent" player would shove in a 27.50 (doubt everyone shoves 56s for 14BBs imo). I also think a part of my game I need to put some time into is ranges which is why I figured I'd post my thoughts- you were clearly trying to be helpful and not a douche though, thanks.
so dont post here if u dont have a clue.

and lol that post is gold

if hes a competent player and he views bb as random he is shoving like 70% there, so its 43s+ 76o+ K2o+ Q3o+ etc., prob more, depends on the reg
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Old 12-08-2010, 07:36 PM   #7
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so dont post here if u dont have a clue.

and lol that post is gold

if hes a competent player and he views bb as random he is shoving like 70% there, so its 43s+ 76o+ K2o+ Q3o+ etc., prob more, depends on the reg
I didn't realize posting on 2p2 was only for range experts such as yourself. I admitted in my post that I had no clue if this were the correct range. I merely showed a range and displayed the correct calling range for that range. Thanks for posting your range though. I'm sure you are more knowledgeable about this, I just don't think its necessary to be a complete dick when disagreeing with me, especially when everyone comes to this site to learn/get better.
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