Hello Everyone,

I am new to 2+2 and have been reading the forum here for about a year. I am in my early 20's and have about 4 years experience playing live and also some online experience. I am a student and play in tournaments and online on the weekends.

I ran into a tough spot last weekend in a $250 EPT event and I would like some feedback from some strong players. First some background: I play only tournaments and do fairly well, cashing in about 1 in every 4 tournaments (this summer I have played in 30 live tournaments, average buy-in $150, and have cashed 14 times. 2 of the 14 were min-cashes, just making it ITM, the other 12 were for $800+, winning 5 tournaments outright and equity chopping the other 7).

My style is tight-aggro, but I tend to widen my range during the later stages of tournaments.

Now for the hand:

Blinds 400/800/1600,
6 tables left out of 12 starting tables

I have ~85,000 UTG +1
Villain is SB with ~140,000

I have been playing tight-aggro, taking advantage of NIT small stacks and playing back at the Villain and 2 other fishy players. Most of my chips came from all-in pre-flop pot with two other players where I had KK. The villain is a 50s something talk-about-vegas-and-let-everyone-know-I'm-wealthy type, playing almost every pot and running over the table with pure aggression--I had seen him c-bet with air on the flop and fold to a raise multiple times. Also, he was plastered...


I find QsQc UTG+1 and raise to 4800. OTB flats, SB villain flats then checks dark. Flop is 2c2d8c. I lead out for 12k. OTB folds, villain flats again. Turn is 3d and he insta-shoves for ~120k.

Any thoughts on what you would have done? Apologies in advance if this is somehow standard and I just do not know it...

call as fast as you can

Hard to tell but it sounds like you should call especially if the guy is plastered. Hard to put maniacs on hands though so you just have to go with the numbers here and assume he doesn't have queens beat. x8 seems very likely.

A8dd. Snap it off.

hey, nice stats. that's some heater you're on.

depends a bit on V tendencies. if you've seen him bomb lock hands in the past this is a slightly gross spot, but if he bets hard with 99/draws etc then snap call.

drunk but otherwise competent players can be hard to read in these spots though. you're never going to be right 100%.

call, snapcall with your reads.
hard to say more about this spot vs a "button clicker". but he has enough combos that you beat and the pot is already pretty big in relation to your stack.

snap it off even if he's got u beat this time, most of the time in this situation against such a villain u are good

Thank you all for the feedback. I too, thought I was good here and tank called for my last 65k. Villain showed AdKd and blanked the river. He then proceeded to go off on a slurred tirade, lecturing me on how if I call there I will not last long in this game. Was this a loose call for my stack? On the turn I put him on 99-JJ, maybe kdqd or 4d5d. The dark check on the flop really threw me off here. He was c betting all flops and I had seen him stop/go as well. On the flop when he floated I thought for sure diamond draw or huge pair. I am almost never ahead when called on flop. What do you guys think I can infer from a lag player checking dark on the flop out of position? I thought super strong--strong enough to try to trap with AA or kk. I would think based on his play that I'm behind here more than ahead. I just sucked it up and called because I was playing to win.

He sounds like a douche. Laugh in his face.

the check in the dark is nothing to be scared of. he's just checking back to the raiser. its never a good idea to check dark, but don't read too much into it when others do it.

don't slowroll that man.

What? That's a snap W/ that board and a drunk retard controlling those chips

Live players love checking in the dark and when they C/R they didn't grow a pair, they flopped a set and think it's such a world class perplexing play

Except he didn't c/r