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08-10-2012, 02:41 PM
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old hand
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22dol. How far would u go?
Villain is unknown.
PokerStars - $20+$2|40/80 NL (9 max) - Holdem - 9 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3
BTN: 3,780.00
SB: 2,931.00
BB: 3,050.00
UTG: 3,873.00
UTG+1: 2,457.00
MP: 6,090.00
MP+1: 2,494.00
LP: 5,820.00
Hero (CO): 2,651.00
SB posts SB 40.00, BB posts BB 80.00
Pre Flop: (120.00) Hero has 7  4
fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 160.00, BTN calls 160.00, fold, BB calls 80.00
Flop: (520.00, 3 players) 2  5  7
BB checks, Hero bets 197.00, fold, BB raises to 480.00, Hero calls 283.00
Turn: (1480.00, 2 players) K
BB bets 800.00, Hero calls 800.00
River: (3080.00, 2 players) Q
BB bets 1,610.00 and is all-in, Hero calls 1,211.00 and is all-in
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08-10-2012, 02:48 PM
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banned
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: uncapped, every street
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Re: 22dol. How far would u go?
Everyone will say they'd go as far as folding pre.
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08-10-2012, 02:56 PM
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#3
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old hand
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Re: 22dol. How far would u go?
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Originally Posted by timetowom
Everyone will say they'd go as far as folding pre.
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ill cut u.
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08-10-2012, 03:11 PM
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deviation of equilibrium
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Re: 22dol. How far would u go?
i'd just gii OTT, fold flop vs nits
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08-10-2012, 03:27 PM
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old hand
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Re: 22dol. How far would u go?
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Originally Posted by furo
i'd just gii OTT, fold flop vs nits
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shoving turn seems kinda bad since he either has us crushed with 2 pair/set or we fold out air. might aswell call down to keep bluffs in.
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08-10-2012, 03:30 PM
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banned
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Re: 22dol. How far would u go?
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Originally Posted by Pyha Karu
ill cut u.
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Can't cut the blade.
So one the turn do you think you're winning or that you have outs? Or both and whichever is convenient at the time?
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08-10-2012, 03:33 PM
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old hand
Join Date: Nov 2010
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Re: 22dol. How far would u go?
i fold flop cause villain has sets/overpairs/better 7x and rarely draws whats the point of gii and also ott?
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08-10-2012, 03:42 PM
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grinder
Join Date: Dec 2005
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Re: 22dol. How far would u go?
fold EVERY street
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08-10-2012, 03:42 PM
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adept
Join Date: May 2010
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Re: 22dol. How far would u go?
I raise 200 pre.
Probably fold the flop.
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08-10-2012, 03:43 PM
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deviation of equilibrium
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Re: 22dol. How far would u go?
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Originally Posted by Pyha Karu
shoving turn seems kinda bad since he either has us crushed with 2 pair/set or we fold out air. might aswell call down to keep bluffs in.
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you underestimate how much equity he has with semibluffs compared to if you have Ax on Axxx
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08-10-2012, 03:46 PM
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grinder
Join Date: Dec 2005
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Re: 22dol. How far would u go?
Hard for me to comment on shoving the turn because i would never get myself in this spot.
Not sure if a shove is +EV, even if it is its going to be high variance and i wouldnt take it
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08-10-2012, 03:47 PM
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grinder
Join Date: Dec 2005
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Re: 22dol. How far would u go?
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Originally Posted by Pyha Karu
shoving turn seems kinda bad since he either has us crushed with 2 pair/set or we fold out air. might aswell call down to keep bluffs in.
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If he has 2p and sets in his range then why are you calling the flop?
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08-10-2012, 03:55 PM
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old hand
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Re: 22dol. How far would u go?
BB gets defended so wide that they make moves often enough with air and draws. just really weak to fold the flop.
since the flop is so dry, sets gets slowplayed quite often to make bluffcatching better.
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08-10-2012, 04:02 PM
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old hand
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Re: 22dol. How far would u go?
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Originally Posted by furo
you underestimate how much equity he has with semibluffs compared to if you have Ax on Axxx
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15 percent with wheeldraw plus an A or same with an open ender. doesnt seem much equity. not to mention possible pure air bluffs.
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08-10-2012, 04:08 PM
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grinder
Join Date: Dec 2005
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Re: 22dol. How far would u go?
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Originally Posted by Pyha Karu
BB gets defended so wide that they make moves often enough with air and draws. just really weak to fold the flop.
since the flop is so dry, sets gets slowplayed quite often to make bluffcatching better.
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Mate sometimes you gotta be weak.
So you think he is check raising an airball here? And then you think he decides to follow through with a huge bet on the turn? And then you think he still shoves the river with air, when the sizing compared to the pot means you will be calling often? Its a pretty outrageous assumption imo
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