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Old 07-17-2012, 08:39 PM   #1
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22$ Weird Hand AK SB v BB early stages

No history on villain. I felt like the flat on the flop was iffy here since his min raise could rep a lot of flush draws or a weaker aces. However, I decided to just call because if he was trying to rep an ace / flush draw he's folding a lot of re-raises (mainly the weaker aces). Also it is early stages and I like to play pretty conservative until the antes. Please comment on flop play and river decision?? thx!







    Pacific, $20 Buy-in (25/50 blinds) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 8 Players
    Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #13541352

    Hero (SB): 3,465 (69.3 bb)
    BB: 6,187 (123.7 bb)
    UTG+2: 2,906 (58.1 bb)
    MP1: 2,970 (59.4 bb)
    MP2: 2,955 (59.1 bb)
    MP3: 5,730 (114.6 bb)
    CO: 1,974 (39.5 bb)
    BTN: 3,080 (61.6 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is SB with K A
    6 folds, Hero raises to 150, BB calls 100

    Flop: (300) T 6 A (2 players)
    Hero bets 225, BB raises to 450, Hero calls 225

    Turn: (1,200) 3 (2 players)
    Hero checks, BB bets 450, Hero calls 450

    River: (2,100) A (2 players)
    Hero bets 800, BB raises to 5,137 and is all-in,




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    Old 07-18-2012, 11:16 AM   #2
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    Re: 22$ Weird Hand AK SB v BB early stages

    Anyone know why I'm not getting any response? lol

    The more I look at this play the more I hate my play altogether. Is that why?
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    Old 07-18-2012, 12:46 PM   #3
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    Re: 22$ Weird Hand AK SB v BB early stages

    Bvb you flopped the nuts and you wanna get value here otf even though the ace of spades is out leaving fewer flush draws and even though you're a little deep. There are still some draws and weaker stuff that may play bad given positions and board texture, so raise/get it in otf can't be awful. You probably get more value calling and letting him barrel blanks ott and calling down given he's a random and you don't have history. Otr you should have a plan when you bet and I think b/f is better than b/c here since I don't see him coming over the top with worse all that often. Given the way he's played previous streets I prefer another c/c as the ace otr disguises your hand so he can 3barrel a bunch of stuff that missed which won't called your bets anyway and weaker aces still barrel
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    Old 07-18-2012, 02:16 PM   #4
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    Re: 22$ Weird Hand AK SB v BB early stages

    shove or cib/gii on the flop. Turn is fine, otr I don't really like b/f since I don't think we get any additional value from hands worse than Ax that would check behind and also because villain will bet Ax nearly always when we check to him. Our line also looks a bit like a busted fd too so I think when we bet we have to call. Vs spazzy villains b/c is completely fine and optimal but readless I think c/c beats the **** out of b/f.
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    Old 07-18-2012, 02:45 PM   #5
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    Re: 22$ Weird Hand AK SB v BB early stages

    980/gii on flop. i'd not fold now with like 1650 left and a chance to win 7k
    not too excited cause he can have tons of better hands, but he can certainly have 20/25% of worse hands than trips top kicker and he can just blow up his stack sometimes.
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    Old 07-18-2012, 10:02 PM   #6
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    Re: 22$ Weird Hand AK SB v BB early stages

    Although when reviewing my play and thinking a bit more I do think I should have probably played it quicker otf.

    As it went, I thought my 800 river was so little (purposely done) to confuse him thinking I could be bluffing my missed draws or a 10 etc. I mainly played it passively just to keep the pot small I think, which is probably a mistake given the draws that are out there.

    I did end up calling after thinking for a while, and figured he either had a weaker ace, or MAYBE a boat. I felt this would be done by a lot of the players at this level with weaker aces just not possibly believing that I could have the 4th ace.

    He showed A3off and I was eliminated.

    SO had I attacked the flop I could have taken a small pot down quick or sucked out on.
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    Old 07-19-2012, 01:26 AM   #7
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    Re: 22$ Weird Hand AK SB v BB early stages

    999/c flop
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    Old 07-19-2012, 03:49 AM   #8
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    Re: 22$ Weird Hand AK SB v BB early stages

    926/c flop. He showed AT?
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    Old 07-19-2012, 07:40 AM   #9
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    Re: 22$ Weird Hand AK SB v BB early stages

    Call river as played
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    Old 07-19-2012, 08:07 AM   #10
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    926/c flop. He showed AT?
    A3off
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    Old 07-19-2012, 04:47 PM   #11
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    Re: 22$ Weird Hand AK SB v BB early stages

    Definitely 3betting flop HU here.
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    Old 07-19-2012, 04:48 PM   #12
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    Call river as played
    Yeah can't really fold here given you b/c flop and c/c turn.
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    Old 07-19-2012, 11:39 PM   #13
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    Re: 22$ Weird Hand AK SB v BB early stages

    b3b flop for sure.

    As played, don't lead river when spades miss!

    I'd be tempted to c/rai or c/c depending on sizing. Never folding once I take this line.

    When you lead and get shoved on I want to flip a coin.
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    Old 07-20-2012, 09:30 AM   #14
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    why did u lead otr?


    bet/3b otf is def. a good option but in this case i prefer op line


    as played call lol 22$
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    Old 07-20-2012, 01:12 PM   #15
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    Re: 22$ Weird Hand AK SB v BB early stages

    What should we do if we play as OP did OTF, and OTT villain bets 1/2 pot behind our check? Do we take a c/r line, or do we call to make a river play determined by reading him as either strongish or mediumish?
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