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07-17-2012, 08:39 PM
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newbie
Join Date: Nov 2009
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22$ Weird Hand AK SB v BB early stages
No history on villain. I felt like the flat on the flop was iffy here since his min raise could rep a lot of flush draws or a weaker aces. However, I decided to just call because if he was trying to rep an ace / flush draw he's folding a lot of re-raises (mainly the weaker aces). Also it is early stages and I like to play pretty conservative until the antes. Please comment on flop play and river decision?? thx!
Pacific, $20 Buy-in (25/50 blinds) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 8 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #13541352
Hero (SB): 3,465 (69.3 bb)
BB: 6,187 (123.7 bb)
UTG+2: 2,906 (58.1 bb)
MP1: 2,970 (59.4 bb)
MP2: 2,955 (59.1 bb)
MP3: 5,730 (114.6 bb)
CO: 1,974 (39.5 bb)
BTN: 3,080 (61.6 bb)
Preflop: Hero is SB with K  A 
6 folds, Hero raises to 150, BB calls 100
Flop: (300) T  6  A (2 players)
Hero bets 225, BB raises to 450, Hero calls 225
Turn: (1,200) 3 (2 players)
Hero checks, BB bets 450, Hero calls 450
River: (2,100) A (2 players)
Hero bets 800, BB raises to 5,137 and is all-in,
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07-18-2012, 11:16 AM
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newbie
Join Date: Nov 2009
Posts: 26
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Re: 22$ Weird Hand AK SB v BB early stages
Anyone know why I'm not getting any response? lol
The more I look at this play the more I hate my play altogether. Is that why?
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07-18-2012, 12:46 PM
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adept
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Oxford, England
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Re: 22$ Weird Hand AK SB v BB early stages
Bvb you flopped the nuts and you wanna get value here otf even though the ace of spades is out leaving fewer flush draws and even though you're a little deep. There are still some draws and weaker stuff that may play bad given positions and board texture, so raise/get it in otf can't be awful. You probably get more value calling and letting him barrel blanks ott and calling down given he's a random and you don't have history. Otr you should have a plan when you bet and I think b/f is better than b/c here since I don't see him coming over the top with worse all that often. Given the way he's played previous streets I prefer another c/c as the ace otr disguises your hand so he can 3barrel a bunch of stuff that missed which won't called your bets anyway and weaker aces still barrel
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07-18-2012, 02:16 PM
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veteran
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Buffalo
Posts: 2,195
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Re: 22$ Weird Hand AK SB v BB early stages
shove or cib/gii on the flop. Turn is fine, otr I don't really like b/f since I don't think we get any additional value from hands worse than Ax that would check behind and also because villain will bet Ax nearly always when we check to him. Our line also looks a bit like a busted fd too so I think when we bet we have to call. Vs spazzy villains b/c is completely fine and optimal but readless I think c/c beats the **** out of b/f.
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07-18-2012, 02:45 PM
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deviation of equilibrium
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Germany
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Re: 22$ Weird Hand AK SB v BB early stages
980/gii on flop. i'd not fold now with like 1650 left and a chance to win 7k
not too excited cause he can have tons of better hands, but he can certainly have 20/25% of worse hands than trips top kicker and he can just blow up his stack sometimes.
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07-18-2012, 10:02 PM
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newbie
Join Date: Nov 2009
Posts: 26
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Re: 22$ Weird Hand AK SB v BB early stages
Although when reviewing my play and thinking a bit more I do think I should have probably played it quicker otf.
As it went, I thought my 800 river was so little (purposely done) to confuse him thinking I could be bluffing my missed draws or a 10 etc. I mainly played it passively just to keep the pot small I think, which is probably a mistake given the draws that are out there.
I did end up calling after thinking for a while, and figured he either had a weaker ace, or MAYBE a boat. I felt this would be done by a lot of the players at this level with weaker aces just not possibly believing that I could have the 4th ace.
He showed A3off and I was eliminated.
SO had I attacked the flop I could have taken a small pot down quick or sucked out on.
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07-19-2012, 01:26 AM
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Pooh-Bah
Join Date: Mar 2004
Posts: 4,143
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Re: 22$ Weird Hand AK SB v BB early stages
999/c flop
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07-19-2012, 03:49 AM
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veteran
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Hong Kong
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Re: 22$ Weird Hand AK SB v BB early stages
926/c flop. He showed AT?
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07-19-2012, 07:40 AM
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Carpal \'Tunnel
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: with the wind at our stern...
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Re: 22$ Weird Hand AK SB v BB early stages
Call river as played
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07-19-2012, 08:07 AM
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newbie
Join Date: Nov 2009
Posts: 26
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Re: 22$ Weird Hand AK SB v BB early stages
Quote:
Originally Posted by pkratitsbest
926/c flop. He showed AT?
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A3off
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07-19-2012, 04:47 PM
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centurion
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Chicago
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Re: 22$ Weird Hand AK SB v BB early stages
Definitely 3betting flop HU here.
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07-19-2012, 04:48 PM
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centurion
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Chicago
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Re: 22$ Weird Hand AK SB v BB early stages
Quote:
Originally Posted by ssnyc
Call river as played
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Yeah can't really fold here given you b/c flop and c/c turn.
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07-19-2012, 11:39 PM
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Pooh-Bah
Join Date: Apr 2010
Posts: 5,362
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Re: 22$ Weird Hand AK SB v BB early stages
b3b flop for sure.
As played, don't lead river when spades miss!
I'd be tempted to c/rai or c/c depending on sizing. Never folding once I take this line.
When you lead and get shoved on I want to flip a coin.
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07-20-2012, 09:30 AM
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old hand
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: GERMANY
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why did u lead otr?
bet/3b otf is def. a good option but in this case i prefer op line
as played call lol 22$
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07-20-2012, 01:12 PM
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grinder
Join Date: Feb 2012
Posts: 644
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Re: 22$ Weird Hand AK SB v BB early stages
What should we do if we play as OP did OTF, and OTT villain bets 1/2 pot behind our check? Do we take a c/r line, or do we call to make a river play determined by reading him as either strongish or mediumish?
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