Originally Posted by furo
is turn for value?
ppl really need to learn the purpose of a bet and not just clicking buttons
in 95% of the cases the bet is either:
a) for value, which means he will c/c with a range that we beat OTT, which he obv should not do.
a player like this will click buttons alot OTR w/o knowing what he is doing and i might call down here OTR. our hand is relatively strong and a bluffcatcher.
or he has a good idea about what he is doing and took this line as a bluff realising that we dont have alot of strong value hands here.
b) a bluff to get better hands to fold/to take it down right there and be happy with the EV of the hand/not get into tricky decisions later in the hand.
vs a player like this river is an easy fold.
so if you valuebet turn, river is hardly ever a fold. it can be with better reads.
if you bluffed OTT and thought the bet can get better hands to fold and that he will often fold in general he will get to the river with a narrow range and you dont beat that much vs most players.
readless, check is hardly ever a big mistake. it can be the not optimal line alot vs some opponents, but its not a huge mistake.