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07-22-2012, 03:29 PM
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newbie
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$22 stars micromil ME - Checking bet sizing with nut straight OTT
I want to check whether my raise bet sizing was good OTT with 2 people in the hand,also on the river the bet sizing was correct as that was a scary board? could i have extracted more?
Poker Stars, $20 Buy-in (30/60 blinds) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 9 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #13569752
MP1: 8,725 (145.4 bb)
MP2: 7,765 (129.4 bb)
MP3: 9,920 (165.3 bb)
Hero (CO): 13,955 (232.6 bb)
BTN: 8,853 (147.6 bb)
SB: 8,097 (135 bb)
BB: 8,525 (142.1 bb)
UTG+1: 10,160 (169.3 bb)
UTG+2: 12,860 (214.3 bb)
Preflop: Hero is CO with 8  7
UTG+1 folds, UTG+2 raises to 180, MP1 calls 180, MP2 calls 180, MP3 folds, Hero calls 180, 3 folds
Flop: (810) 5  4  9 (4 players)
UTG+2 bets 600, MP1 calls 600, MP2 folds, Hero calls 600
Turn: (2,610) 4 (3 players)
UTG+2 bets 1,140, MP1 calls 1,140, Hero raises to 2,970, UTG+2 calls 1,830, MP1 folds
River: (9,690) 6 (2 players)
UTG+2 checks, Hero bets 2,999, UTG+2 calls 2,999
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07-22-2012, 04:21 PM
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deviation of equilibrium
Join Date: May 2009
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Re: $22 stars micromil ME - Checking bet sizing with nut straight OTT
i dont like your raise OTT, and the sizing does not get FD with two overs to fold at this buyin. you could already be drawing dead.
as played simple valuejam OTR. he mostly has two pair.
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07-22-2012, 04:53 PM
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old hand
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: GERMANY
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squezze pre
flop is fine
call turn
river is fine
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07-22-2012, 05:05 PM
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newbie
Join Date: Jun 2012
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Re: $22 stars micromil ME - Checking bet sizing with nut straight OTT
Quote:
Originally Posted by MartinGuthOBV
squezze pre
flop is fine
call turn
river is fine
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wow squeezing with 78 is a little creative and what do we do if we completely miss flop??
take note that this table are all fish on 30~40/10 , super unlikely that i'm going to get folds or isolate even one of them.
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07-22-2012, 05:42 PM
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banned
Join Date: Aug 2011
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Re: $22 stars micromil ME - Checking bet sizing with nut straight OTT
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Originally Posted by 18/male/singapore
wow squeezing with 78 is a little creative and what do we do if we completely miss flop??
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you will be IP. Do what you want to do.
Though, I`m unsure we need to thinner field being that deep.
Turn raise is bad.
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07-22-2012, 06:07 PM
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Pooh-Bah
Join Date: Apr 2010
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Re: $22 stars micromil ME - Checking bet sizing with nut straight OTT
Pre's fine. Squeezing wouldn't enter my mind.
Flop is good, raising turn isn't, we reopen the action and might get pushed off a good draw by bad players who will pay us off if we hit.
jam river as played.
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07-22-2012, 08:57 PM
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Carpal \'Tunnel
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Re: $22 stars micromil ME - Checking bet sizing with nut straight OTT
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Originally Posted by gregz41
Pre's fine. Squeezing wouldn't enter my mind.
Flop is good, raising turn isn't, we reopen the action and might get pushed off a good draw by bad players who will pay us off if we hit.
jam river as played.
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Sounds right...
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07-23-2012, 04:42 AM
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old hand
Join Date: Sep 2011
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Re: $22 stars micromil ME - Checking bet sizing with nut straight OTT
def dont get raise pre, these bastards call a ton with rubbish that has us beat and wont let go of mediocre hands post, so we cannot barrel them off. yeah, rly dont like the turn raise. actually, might even find a fold since there r boats and higher fd's in rane and we have only an added gutshot. river sizing looks fine for me, hard to see us getting a call for a pot sized shove from A4hh or somethin.
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07-23-2012, 10:06 AM
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Pooh-Bah
Join Date: Aug 2009
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Re: $22 stars micromil ME - Checking bet sizing with nut straight OTT
As played, sizing seems good to me OTR also. Pretty thin range that calls a shove.
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07-23-2012, 10:12 AM
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enthusiast
Join Date: May 2012
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Re: $22 stars micromil ME - Checking bet sizing with nut straight OTT
As others stated above, I would just call the turn. raising might get someone to jam on you and then your stuck. Also jam river
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07-23-2012, 10:50 AM
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adept
Join Date: Dec 2011
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Re: $22 stars micromil ME - Checking bet sizing with nut straight OTT
Quote:
Originally Posted by MartinGuthOBV
squezze pre
flop is fine
call turn
river is fine
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squezze sounds good,
river id go bigger around 4500, 2999 30% of the pot is just bad
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07-23-2012, 12:53 PM
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adept
Join Date: Dec 2011
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Re: $22 stars micromil ME - Checking bet sizing with nut straight OTT
Either raise flop or raise river. Never doing it OTT.
As played just jam river.
Also, i think the squeeze is very villain and table dependant. I could advocate it sometimes but readless it is fine to flat IP PF.
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07-23-2012, 01:32 PM
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banned
Join Date: Nov 2011
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Re: $22 stars micromil ME - Checking bet sizing with nut straight OTT
Lmao squeeze is sweet. Y'all should give it a try sometimes. Surely you can make it profitable gregz.
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07-23-2012, 01:52 PM
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Carpal \'Tunnel
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Re: $22 stars micromil ME - Checking bet sizing with nut straight OTT
squeeze with hands that aren't really nice flatting hands in this spot. I don't think squeezing is bad (very likely profitable) but I prefer to play this multiway in position with bigger SPR and don't mind if the blinds come along.
I raise flop and go balls to the wall. flatting that texture multiway caps your range imo. It does have merits nonetheless so I am not adamant about raising flop. yes it would sucj if he jams his stack in and we have to fold but randoms dont b/jam very often. they'll make a confused call with a huge part of their range.
If I raise flop I prob check back that particular turn since it's pretty bad but will continue on most other ones.
hate decision to raise that turn after flop flat.
jam river people don't like folding over pairs.
Last edited by desperad0oo7; 07-23-2012 at 02:01 PM.
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07-23-2012, 07:43 PM
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Pooh-Bah
Join Date: Apr 2010
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Re: $22 stars micromil ME - Checking bet sizing with nut straight OTT
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Originally Posted by timetowom
Lmao squeeze is sweet. Y'all should give it a try sometimes. Surely you can make it profitable gregz.
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Why do you say that? I very much want to see a flop with this hand and I want the best implied odds I can get.
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