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08-15-2011 , 12:38 PM

MartinGuthOBV

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villain runs over 20 hands, 25/15
seems like a random reg

no reads/history

Poker Stars $20+$2 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t125/t250 Blinds + t25 - 9 players - View hand 1408654
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SB: t17062 M = 28.44
BB: t12512 M = 20.85
UTG: t14151 M = 23.59
UTG+1: t13883 M = 23.14
UTG+2: t32436 M = 54.06
Hero (MP1): t24161 M = 40.27
MP2: t26258 M = 43.76
CO: t6894 M = 11.49
BTN: t18998 M = 31.66

Pre Flop: (t600) Hero is MP1 with 7

3 folds, Hero raises to t500, MP2 calls t500, 3 folds, BB calls t250

Flop: (t1850) 7

(3 players)
BB checks, Hero bets t1111, MP2 calls t1111, BB folds

Turn: (t4072) 8

(2 players)
Hero ?

b/f or c/c OTT ?

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08-15-2011 , 12:49 PM

teddyrowe9

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like 2300/f imo

river could be a c/f though

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08-15-2011 , 01:19 PM

SenseiSingh

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i like b/f on turn

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08-15-2011 , 02:33 PM

tboneparte

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1881/fold, c/decide river if you don't boat up, but mostly c/f.

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08-16-2011 , 02:15 AM

furo

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dont think we can b/f turn unless he shoves/raises big
like if we bet 2k and he raises to 5k we get the direct odds to boat up vs the top of his range (flush)
to keep the potsize managable i think checking oop is fine here, with the intention to call and c/soulread river unimproved and c/c or c/shove when improving.

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08-16-2011 , 12:08 PM

teddyrowe9

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Originally Posted by furo

well if the direct odds are there, then we would have to peel a river. doubt we get much more value though when we fill up except from like a 5 only.

just really not a fan of c/c-ing twice and i think if we c/c turn, its pretty bleh to c/f river

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08-16-2011 , 01:34 PM

tripled83

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Originally Posted by furo

i love your insight furo, i agree.

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08-16-2011 , 04:42 PM

MartinGuthOBV

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Poker Stars No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t125.00/t250.00 Blinds - 9 players - View hand 1410187
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SB: t17062.00 68.25 BBs
BB: t12512.00 50.05 BBs
UTG: t14151.00 56.60 BBs
UTG+1: t13883.00 55.53 BBs
UTG+2: t32436.00 129.74 BBs
Hero (MP1): t24161.00 96.64 BBs
MP2: t26258.00 105.03 BBs
CO: t6894.00 27.58 BBs
BTN: t18998.00 75.99 BBs

Pre Flop: (t375) Hero is MP1 with 7

3 folds, Hero raises to t500, MP2 calls t500, 3 folds, BB calls t250

Flop: (t1625) 7

(3 players)
BB checks, Hero bets t1111.00, MP2 calls t1111, BB folds

Turn: (t3847) 8

(2 players)
Hero checks, MP2 bets t1221.00, Hero calls t1221

River: (t6289) 9

(2 players)
Hero ???

b/f or c/c?

if i 3333/f river, what expect u guys shall calling us?

sry for horrible english

Last edited by MartinGuthOBV; 08-16-2011 at 04:52 PM.

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08-16-2011 , 04:49 PM

teddyrowe9

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b/f river..like 3300

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08-17-2011 , 10:30 AM

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PAROOVKA

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In general, I lol at miniraise from MP with 75s. What did you want to achieve by doing it? Encourage as many players as possible to take part in the pot with the monster?

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08-17-2011 , 10:57 AM

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tobbe

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Check turn.
Bet half pot on every non spade OTR if opponent checks behind OTT.

If he bets turn call and c/f river if villain bets big (unless u make fh)

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08-17-2011 , 11:27 AM

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ebet33

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Originally Posted by PAROOVKA

In general, I lol at miniraise from MP with 75s. What did you want to achieve by doing it? Encourage as many players as possible to take part in the pot with the monster?

Sigh...

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08-17-2011 , 11:40 AM

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cicakman

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wow some of the responses in here are legit ******ed. i think checking turn is pretty standard and river seems like a good spot to b/f

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08-17-2011 , 12:08 PM

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69spades

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I thought a bit about this one and realized b/f could def be better than c/c.

However, I actually don't see him paying us with a flush if we bet big. Can a tiny value bet be a good idea or are we risking to be bluffed?

I'm not still sure if b/f is good.

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08-17-2011 , 12:17 PM

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I really want to b/c some absurd amount like 1500 otr. I dont like leading a value bet because I think he can fold flushes and I dont like c/c because I think he checks a lot of stuff behind. I think making a blocking bet to induce is best against a reg.

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08-17-2011 , 12:41 PM

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MartinGuthOBV

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3 folds, Hero raises to t500, MP2 calls t500, 3 folds, BB calls t250

Flop: (t1625) 7

(3 players)
BB checks, Hero bets t1111.00, MP2 calls t1111, BB folds

Turn: (t3847) 8

(2 players)
Hero checks, MP2 bets t1221.00, Hero calls t1221

River: (t6289) 9

(2 players)
Hero bets 777, BB raises to 1777, Hero ?

lolfold?

i think 3b/f river is good smth like 4,5k?

or just click call?

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08-17-2011 , 12:55 PM

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69spades

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3b/f would be an elaborate play if u think he can pay with the flush.

However, unless u have that particular read, I don't see much value in 3betting and I'd just call it

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08-17-2011 , 01:01 PM

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Chuck Bass

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Wow you guys are valuebetting thin if you wanna value3ball this

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08-17-2011 , 01:11 PM

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teddyrowe9

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Originally Posted by MartinGuthOBV

i think 3b/f river is good smth like 4,5k?

or just click call?

Why would you ever want to make it 4.5k/fold river? Makes no sense.

Still think this hand is much better when we b/f turn and c/f river (depending somewhat on sizing). Really don't see a $22 rando turning a flush, TT-QQ, or whatever else into a bluff on the river.

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08-17-2011 , 01:23 PM

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MartinGuthOBV

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yep good point, just inducebet/call otr >>> 4,5k/fold

turn is damn close b/f > c/c

river i dunno, many good options there

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08-18-2011 , 09:54 PM

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_Koby_

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fold pre.

i would call the river.

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08-22-2011 , 04:58 AM

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PAROOVKA

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Originally Posted by cicakman

wow some of the responses in here are legit ******ed. i think checking turn is pretty standard and river seems like a good spot to b/f

My response here was tarded a lot, I agree. Sorry about it, just probably wasn't in the best mood.

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08-22-2011 , 05:41 AM

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furo

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wtf is this river bet? make it like 35-45% pot/f or c/c most bets

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