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Old 08-18-2012, 04:00 AM   #1
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$22 A9o EP w/ 13bb, shove spot?

Not sure if this is a standard shove or fold. Table has been pretty standard, not too loose, not too tight.

32 players remaining, im 29th in chips, 18 pay.

    Cake Poker, $20 Buy-in (200/400 blinds, 40 ante) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 8 Players
    Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #13742712

    SB: 11,072 (27.7 bb)
    BB: 9,635 (24.1 bb)
    UTG+2: 11,123 (27.8 bb)
    Hero (MP1): 5,097 (12.7 bb)
    MP2: 24,826 (62.1 bb)
    MP3: 7,097 (17.7 bb)
    CO: 8,765 (21.9 bb)
    BTN: 22,851 (57.1 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is MP1 with A 9
    UTG+2 folds, Hero ?,



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    Old 08-18-2012, 05:03 AM   #2
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    Re: $22 A9o EP w/ 13bb, shove spot?

    u still can find a space for fold here, but again if the table dynamics is little thighter i'll decide to push here. i dont know how your opponents are able to light call here cose u have whole table behind u waiting to act.and i dont know if u were tight or u were pushing a lot in previous hand's.
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    Old 08-18-2012, 07:18 AM   #3
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    Re: $22 A9o EP w/ 13bb, shove spot?

    shove all day
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    Old 08-18-2012, 10:11 AM   #4
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    Re: $22 A9o EP w/ 13bb, shove spot?

    A10o+/A9s+/33+/KQ/K9s+/ and sc's 910s+ = proper shove range.
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    Old 08-18-2012, 01:35 PM   #5
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    Re: $22 A9o EP w/ 13bb, shove spot?

    A7s,ATo,22,K9s,KJo,any sooooted boardways,9Ts. A9o is +cEV but too thin
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    Old 08-18-2012, 03:17 PM   #6
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    Re: $22 A9o EP w/ 13bb, shove spot?

    Quote:
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    A7s,ATo,22,K9s,KJo,any sooooted boardways,9Ts. A9o is +cEV but too thin
    this seems good
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    Re: $22 A9o EP w/ 13bb, shove spot?

    mr/f or openfold, depends on table
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    Old 08-19-2012, 05:08 AM   #8
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    Re: $22 A9o EP w/ 13bb, shove spot?

    close. rather fold
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    Old 08-19-2012, 05:42 AM   #9
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    Re: $22 A9o EP w/ 13bb, shove spot?

    shoved in almost identical circumstances in WSOP event this year, called by AQ in BB and busted.

    this did get me thinking.

    is AJ- ever worth shoving in this situation? considering the calling ranges of V's in most mtt's, isn't it more correct to widen the non-Ax portion of our range and tighten Ax part - even to something ludicrously tight?

    i figure you guys have crunched numbers on this forever, but are correct ranges being dictated by the top x% calculations we typically make in sngwiz/stove etc - rather than mapping out the hands that actually play best against the expecting calling ranges of opponents?

    e.g. K8o/55 better than AT, even though they sit lower in the % tree.

    or does the added FE of an A blocker outweigh the increased equity of two live cards when called?

    just wondering...
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    Old 08-20-2012, 12:42 AM   #10
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    Re: $22 A9o EP w/ 13bb, shove spot?

    If anyone agrees that shoving k8 off is better than shoving a 10 off, I am going to kill myself.

    Op, I would fold, to early of position, one seat to the left it is pry a shove, two seats to left and it's snap shove. 29 of 32 does give us the added incentive to widen up a bit
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