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 15k KK 4b bot vs donk line check  15k KK 4b bot vs donk line check

07-28-2011 , 01:30 PM
Vilain is 29/17 in 24 hands and it's a donk.
I'm playing very solid but and don't think he sees anything.

Think my miss was 4b small. I think I should go like 1099 / ship flop.

Good Idea as played ship turn?

Too bad as played? Toughs...






    Poker Stars, $20 Buy-in (20/40 blinds) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 9 Players
    Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #10100832

    Hero (BTN): 5,320 (133 bb)
    SB: 3,710 (92.8 bb)
    BB: 2,805 (70.1 bb)
    UTG+1: 4,330 (108.3 bb)
    UTG+2: 1,615 (40.4 bb)
    MP1: 3,265 (81.6 bb)
    MP2: 3,210 (80.3 bb)
    MP3: 3,000 (75 bb)
    CO: 2,210 (55.3 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is BTN with K K
    6 folds, Hero raises to 120, SB raises to 360, BB folds, Hero raises to 800, SB calls 440

    Flop: (1,640) Q 2 A (2 players)
    SB checks, Hero checks

    Turn: (1,640) T (2 players)
    SB bets 600, Hero calls 600

    River: (2,840) 2 (2 players)
    SB bets 2,310 and is all-in, Hero folds

    Spoiler:
    Results: 2,840 pot
    Final Board: Q 2 A T 2
    Hero mucked K K and lost (-1,400 net)
    SB mucked and won 2,840 (1,440 net)



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     15k KK 4b bot vs donk line check Quote
    07-28-2011 , 01:33 PM
    again I think we can go a little bigger with the 4bet because when he 3x's he isn't doing it to fold to a 4bet a lot.

    post seems fine
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    07-28-2011 , 01:39 PM
    I think you played it ok. I do like to cbet flop bc he may turn 88-99 into a bluff here if you check behind because your perceived range is KK and that's about it. I'd rather not play a guessing game
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    07-28-2011 , 02:50 PM
    would you rather bet 600 on the flop so he folds 99 or call 600 on the turn when he still has 99 in his range?
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    07-28-2011 , 02:52 PM
    of course betting the flop cause my fe is much bigger than my chances to catch otr
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    07-28-2011 , 11:15 PM
    pre is fine...more is ok too but I am fine with the sizing
    flop is fine...betting seems pointless...only reason to bet is to block a bluff
    turn is fine
    I am tempted to call river
     15k KK 4b bot vs donk line check Quote
    07-29-2011 , 12:42 AM
    As played jam turn.

    Id bet flop probably
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    07-29-2011 , 02:09 AM
    i like it all, jamming turn > betting flop imo. we can get 1 street of air/weaker hands and maybe get some weak Ax to b/f that are leveling themself.
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    07-29-2011 , 02:17 AM
    We have 2nd pair in a 4bet pot 90 bb's deep. We're crushing a decent part of his range but that's the part he folds when we bet the flop.

    If we are calling all turns we get value from some of the stuff he folds on the flop and there's a number of turns that give us decent equity against the stuff we're behind. Kings are the nuts, all spades give us the nut flush draw and we have backdoor straight equity too.

    Calling the turn is >> jamming turn unless we really expect someone to fold Ax getting >2/1 in a 4bet pot?
     15k KK 4b bot vs donk line check Quote
    07-29-2011 , 02:51 AM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by dereds
    Calling the turn is >> jamming turn unless we really expect someone to fold Ax getting >2/1 in a 4bet pot?
    depends on how he interprets the line + we block 50% of AK combinations . its def very interesting imo.
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    07-29-2011 , 06:21 PM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by furo
    depends on how he interprets the line + we block 50% of AK combinations . its def very interesting imo.
    Villains described as a donk. I doubt he's thinking about kickers if the reads accurate.
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    07-29-2011 , 11:18 PM
    i like it, agree with going slightly bigger pre but played it perfectly otherwise.
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