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04-13-2017 , 12:37 PM

Kwiker

stranger

Join Date: Feb 2016 Posts: 8

Vilain is an unkown reg. He has been super lag over the first 40 hands ( something like 45/30 and 35 rfi)

I would call 22-77 pf and play flops but I plan to call a 4bet shove with 88. Is it bad? Should I 3bet bigger? Advice on every street would be appreciated.

Winamax
6 Players
Hand Conversion Powered by WeakTight Poker Hand History Converter

Stacks:
UTG (13,461) 34bb
UTG+1 (9,950) 25bb
CO (20,364) 51bb
BTN (7,988) 20bb
SB (5,714) 14bb
BB Hero (16,486) 41bb

Blinds: 200/400 Ante 50

Pre-Flop: (900, 6 players) Hero is BB 8

UTG raises to 800, 4 folds, Hero raises to 2,500, UTG calls 1,700
Flop: 5

(5,500, 2 players)

Hero bets 2,200, UTG calls 2,200

Turn: 4

(9,900, 2)
Hero checks, UTG goes all-in 8,711, Hero folds
Final Pot: 18,611

UTG wins 27,322 (net +13,861)

Hero lost 4,750

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04-13-2017 , 06:07 PM

zanardi1

old hand

Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 1,589

I´d just jam rather than 3bet. Will 3bet a more polar range here but against this villain I like ripping pre 6 handed, he will call a lot and put pressure on different texture.
Against someone tighter my default would be to just flat.

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04-13-2017 , 07:22 PM

Kwiker

stranger

Join Date: Feb 2016 Posts: 8

Yeah I considered shoving but 34bb felt a bit much. It may be best vs this profile though.

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04-13-2017 , 08:15 PM

hitchens97

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Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 2,455

I think I just flat call pre here, and without trying to be too hindsight driven. This is exactly the problem you end up with 3-betting. Even with the initiative you're OOP, in a bloated pit with a lot of flops that are not going to be nice to you. He'll often float you in position and then put you to the sword on the turn.

As played now, who knows? I think I probably just let it go.

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04-13-2017 , 08:50 PM

gregz41

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 8,609

45/30 is an average from all position. This looks like a flat to me.

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04-14-2017 , 12:29 AM

Kwiker

stranger

Join Date: Feb 2016 Posts: 8

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Originally Posted by hitchens97

Your points make sense. I rep quite strong when I 3bet though, he cant just float that many flops and bluff turn when checked too. My 3b range is gonna happily gii on a lot of boards imo. Axx is pretty bad though obv, I call a lot of my Ax combos pf so he has way more Ax than me.

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Originally Posted by gregz41

45/30 is an average from all position. This looks like a flat to me.

Yeah, I get that even if he looks very LAG it's still an UTG open. I see the merit in flatting. Would you call 99 too? AQ? and 3bet TT+/AK?

Thanks for the answers guys, appreciate it.

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04-14-2017 , 05:55 AM

gregz41

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Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 8,609

AQ+ 99+ seems a decent 3bet range vs him. I think I might go a shade bigger though(2800).

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04-14-2017 , 12:00 PM

user12345

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Join Date: Mar 2014 Posts: 3,737

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Originally Posted by zanardi1

I also dont like 3bet very much but wait Zan you want to rip 35bb vs UTG?
Is it profitable (guess 0.5-1bb ev region) and I think regs will play well vs jam.

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Originally Posted by gregz41

AQ+ 99+ seems a decent 3bet range vs him. I think I might go a shade bigger though(2800).

I concur.

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04-14-2017 , 05:39 PM

zanardi1

old hand

Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 1,589

[QUOTE=user12345;52062667]I also dont like 3bet very much but wait Zan you want to rip 35bb vs UTG?
Is it profitable (guess 0.5-1bb ev region) and I think regs will play well vs jam.

Its 6 handed, he prolly has a very high rfi utg also, so I doubt by flatting you realize more EV than jamming.
But as i said earlier, against opening normal frequencies ill just flat.

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