Live event. Blinds are 400/800 - 100 ante.

Entire table has been very loose, even as the blinds increase. Still seeing many limps into multiway pots with the average stack at about 20bb.

Hero is on the SB with AJ and a stack of 17,800

Action folds to MP3, who limps. MP3 has been showing down with strong hands most of the time but has also played a lot of pots that never got to showdown.

Hijack makes the bet 5k to go. Hijack has been playing alright but tends to overvalue medium strength hands. My read is that he has a low to medium pocket pair.

Action folds to hero, hero shoves. MP3 snapcalls with AKo and hijack folds revealing 88.

Board comes 7 2 J 5 K and leaves me with less than half a big blind.

Where I think I went wrong here was giving myself too much fold equity in my considerations, when reads on these players said they will call with any coin flip hand, and most of those have me dominated. Folding here didn't seem right in the moment, but looking back it should have been fairly obvious. There were still going to be plenty of opportunities to steal blinds and make plays later on instead of investing everything into a coin flip. I don't think just calling is right in any universe since I won't close out the betting and I'll be out of position the entire way.

Any outside input?

reads on these players said they will call with any coin flip hand, and most of those have me dominated. [/QUOTE]

Wat? This seems contradictory...

Hand seems meh. On one hand you have 22bb's, a strong hand and limper is barely ever calling when it goes limp/raise/all in from you. Obviously he had it this time but most of the time he's gonna be limp/folding so with that dead money+blinds+ante's I want to shove. Unless he has exactly AA then worst case you're still about 30%

On the other hand it's a massive raise from the HJ so I doubt he's ever 6x then folding... People do this a lot with mid pairs they don't want to play post flop so you're likely opting in to a flip

If you're playing to win probably pile it in his face and hope to get there then have 2x the average stack and start running over the table ... Edit: Think folding is alright too though, just don't call :P

he made it 5k just fold

He means "covered", not "dominated"

No, I meant dominated, but he's right that it's contradictory. I should have said some of those have me dominated instead of most. AK and AQ are possibilities in MP3's range but only a small part of their coin flip calling range (which likely includes 99+, AJs+, AQ, AK, of which only a few have me dominated)

Ok, my bad.

What is a coin flip hand?

It's a hand you expect to have roughly 50% chance to win in a showdown. AK, small pocket pairs, AQ, low suited connectors

Why do you consider AK or AQ a coin flip hand?

AK in my book beats most hands in a showdown, not roughly 50%

sighfold pre

The 6x raise after a single limper ranges 88-JJ, sometimes AK. You would rarely be ahead in this spot. As is often the case, fold AJ and avoid trouble.

It's only favored against most random hands at about 55%-45% or something. Against most small pocket pairs you're behind to start with because you need to hit one of your 6 outs.

ffffffold pre

I would muck pre also

durrrrrmatology.

Fold pre. This 5k bet after a limper means alot of the time one of them is going to call you. And at absolute best it's a race. And a lot of the time you're a 30% dog against AQ or AK.