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11-13-2014 , 07:49 PM
Final table - 15k guaranteed. heads up play. 3200 first and 2250 second place

Only a few hands in to hu play. i've raised 2x and he's folded and I open folded button once. i won most of my chips on a few big hands a table ago from this player. he has knocked out most of the final table players and my chip lead has dwindled to a few bb. he seems TAG, but has run very hot as one needs to at the final table. We have yet to play a big pot.

Hero 23bb
Villain 20bb

Button KQo

I min raise to 2bb. Villain reraises to 7bb.

Contemplated flat calling in position and seeing a flop but was concerned that we werent deep enough.
Also contemplated 4 betting all in.

What is your play?
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11-13-2014 , 09:11 PM
Just get it in IMO, third time you've raised and he can't keep folding... His sizing hints to not folding but think were in ok shape against all the hands he takes a stand with.

Also just defaulting to it's kinda bad told kqo HU with 20 bb effective stacks. Pivotal pot too bc lead swings to him if you fold.
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11-13-2014 , 09:21 PM
20bbs effective there is almost no room to play post, especially a 14bb pot when you both will have the same left behind

It sucks since his 3bet is so big, but maybe it means he could be folding d/k

You can fold if you feel like you play better, if not, just type in "AQ?" and pile. Shoving pre is good also
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11-14-2014 , 10:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Jankis006
20bbs effective there is almost no room to play post, especially a 14bb pot when you both will have the same left behind

It sucks since his 3bet is so big, but maybe it means he could be folding d/k

You can fold if you feel like you play better, if not, just type in "AQ?" and pile. Shoving pre is good also
thanks. i felt like 20bb was a little too deep to shove / fold. when i got between 10-15 that was my plan. here i wanted to minraise b/c i am also minraising alot of hands weaker than kqo and would be a shame to push all of them to balance my range.

i just shoved over. he thought for a while and then called with A2o. I was surprised but i guess he must have though i have an ace I am good..... of course he spike the ace but i am trying not to be results focused here.

i felt like in hindsight i could have flatted in position and seen a flop and how he acted. if an ace spiked and he bet i could let it go and still have 13 bb. i dunno
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11-14-2014 , 11:51 AM
Cant ever flat that. If you miss you just gave him chips without a chance to improve. He basically shoved with the 3b and KQ is a huge hand HU with 20bb on the button. Hes getting it in with all pairs and probably KJs and KQ so youre in a flip with alnost his entire range. I would play some hyper turbo HU/6max sng's to get used to final table stack dynamics and youll see this is a call. Just my honest advice, its helped me a lot esp in live play where structures are so bad
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11-14-2014 , 10:48 PM
Bump!

Would love the opportunity to play hyper hu sngs as an american for practice. Good thread and am interested in other responses.

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11-15-2014 , 01:41 AM
Probably just nit it up and fold.
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11-16-2014 , 10:15 PM
We aren't folding if he reshoves, so I don't think we should be folding to his 3b. Our hand is far too strong for hu play. If he had given us a cheaper price, I can see us possibly just calling. But when he makes it this large, I think it's probably best to just get it in pre.
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11-17-2014 , 11:22 PM
I mean, we would be 3betting/GII here, so 4bet jamming with any perceived FE is good. KQ is way too strong to fold HU with such shallow stacks. Unless villain is a complete noob and we can find a better spot, just pile.
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11-20-2014 , 05:07 PM
Standard gii
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11-20-2014 , 08:34 PM
Yep shove all the way...i mean you said you min raise with less right? The only reason to min raise KQ is to induce a steal, then you shove, thats the play, unless like kurt said he gives you a better price to flat in position. I think your def thinking "results"...if he called off his KJ and you won, would you even pose this question?
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11-21-2014 , 01:36 PM
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Originally Posted by KingCa$ino
Bump!

Would love the opportunity to play hyper hu sngs as an american for practice. Good thread and am interested in other responses.

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Nailed it.
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11-21-2014 , 06:30 PM
limp
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11-22-2014 , 01:04 PM
limp/shove is an interesting possibility but the drawback is that sometimes he realizes his equity with garbage hands on the flop.

KQ is strong enough to r/c off though so unless we're playing live and I've got a read on the guy I think we have to get it in.
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11-23-2014 , 06:02 PM
if u plan on getting it in, is a flat, then lead ship best?
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11-25-2014 , 09:45 PM
I like the shove. To me his call seems a little light, but the 7bb 3 bet was weird too so who knows. Maybe he's got it all figured out. Curious, in reverse, would you have called w A2? Did you claw your way back from 3 bigs?

I'm also from the US, just reading the words "hyper heads-up SNGs" makes me jealous - haha
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