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Old 02-06-2012, 11:38 PM   #1
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$150-1 early, 1 late spot

I've bubbled the last two times I played this tourney ($150+$30) at DE Park. Two hands from my tourney on Sat I'm second guessing.

Hand 1: First spot is against a quite young Asian guy who's very clearly a thinking player and the best player at the table I can identify ( I base this on information before Hand 1 and conversations during breaks after the hand). Table is really soft and we have both been taking advantage of it by Hand 1.

History leading up to this hand involves me triple barreling him with A high and him pushing over and showing 43o, and a little later, me doubling me up through him with a turned boat v his rivered straight. Before this hand, his opening about 40% of pots, and only showed down the hands in our history. I've been slightly less active but have shown down 2 or 3 winners with other people.


Hero: 14k
Villain:17k
Blinds: 50-100

I raise to 350 with AhAc from UTG, call from middle position, Villian calls from button.

Board comes 2h3h9s

I bet 800, middle folds, villain calls.

Turn is Kh

I bet 2400, he pushes, hero ?

Hand 2: 15 left with 13 cashing, I'm in 13/15 with 46,000 and average stack is about 100k. Blinds 4k-8k with 1k ante. I've been blinded down to about half my high stack from having no cards/being 3-bet.

BB has 42,000. SB has 28,000.

Folds to me. I push with 3o6o on button.
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Old 02-07-2012, 12:10 AM   #2
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Re: $150-1 early, 1 late spot

Hand 1 - Raise less pre. Snap turn. Don't bet turn if you won't imo.
Hand 2 - You have ~ 5 free hands left. You'll prolly get better than 6 high

don't bet fold with 13-10bb stack

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Old 02-07-2012, 12:49 AM   #3
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Re: $150-1 early, 1 late spot

hand 1 - turn is an easy c/c. turn sizing is way too big and allows him to put you in this spot. now we're definitely behind more often than we're ahead, but probably can't fold given that we always have 15-20% equity at worst.

hand 2 is a terrible, terrible shove.
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Old 02-07-2012, 01:37 AM   #4
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Re: $150-1 early, 1 late spot

Hand 1, I'd really try to get some type of read. Knowing whether this guy thinks you are c-betting the flop or whether he is chasing a flush is crucial here.

Hand 2, if you really know what you're doing here, it could be a good way to pick up chips. For most players, I believe a fold is probably wisest.
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Old 02-07-2012, 02:07 AM   #5
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Re: $150-1 early, 1 late spot

Hand 1: turn sizing is large, so you kinda have to call with the Ah anyway. i could be convinced to b/f smallish.

Hand 2: ez fold
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Old 02-07-2012, 11:31 AM   #6
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Re: $150-1 early, 1 late spot

1st hand it's an easy c/c. I was scared of creating a difficult river decision as I know he was capable of making a river play, can't play scared

2nd hand though, is it really that bad? I don't have fold equity to three-bet. SB and BB are scared money. The whole table has folded to me which is the first time in a while. If I can isolate heads up, which is the 2nd most likely outcome vs. gaining about 40% of my stack back with two folds, I have to pot odds to justify the call even though I'm a dog given his likely calling range I would think. So I see it as

60% of gaining 40% of my stack (fold)
40% chance of either doubling up (30%) or busting (70%) against thier expected range

Is that a worse option than waiting for a better hand for 5 hands on an active table where I'm really short and pushing the BB essentially blind if I don't get there?
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Old 02-07-2012, 11:39 AM   #7
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Re: $150-1 early, 1 late spot

yes
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Old 02-07-2012, 05:22 PM   #8
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Re: $150-1 early, 1 late spot

Hand 1: snapcall.
Hand 2: I like it. Abusing the bubble as live players will be tighter in these spots as they played longer and want to cash and you have been tight for some time but use reads. nh.
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Old 02-07-2012, 11:23 PM   #9
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Re: $150-1 early, 1 late spot

But how good is 36 against the blinds calling range? dead to 33, 66+ A6, A3, K6s, K3s.
Spose its ok considering mega shortstack but shouldn't have let it get this short
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Old 02-08-2012, 01:13 AM   #10
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Re: $150-1 early, 1 late spot

hand 1- I would prolly call, hand 2- never shove 36 there ppl will call light there
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Hand 2, if you really know what you're doing here, it could be a good way to pick up chips.

WAT?
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Old 02-09-2012, 07:53 AM   #12
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Re: $150-1 early, 1 late spot

he covers both blinds 2 off the money in the second hand I think the shove may be fine, terrible I think is overstating the case though OP should probably include some more info on blinds
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Old 02-09-2012, 07:54 AM   #13
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Re: $150-1 early, 1 late spot

also look at the position of the two players with smaller stacks they are paying the blinds later and we are two off the money
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Re: $150-1 early, 1 late spot

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Hand 1, I'd really try to get some type of read. Knowing whether this guy thinks you are c-betting the flop or whether he is chasing a flush is crucial here.

Hand 2, if you really know what you're doing here, it could be a good way to pick up chips. For most players, I believe a fold is probably wisest.
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WAT?
This geez.. and shoving the button in hand 2 is spew... hand 1 is a c/c on the turn and a b/f with aces no heart imo.. as played im rly not sure that's a huge shove... i think id just fold and berate myself for doing this to myself
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