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02-06-2012, 11:38 PM
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newbie
Join Date: Dec 2009
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$150-1 early, 1 late spot
I've bubbled the last two times I played this tourney ($150+$30) at DE Park. Two hands from my tourney on Sat I'm second guessing.
Hand 1: First spot is against a quite young Asian guy who's very clearly a thinking player and the best player at the table I can identify ( I base this on information before Hand 1 and conversations during breaks after the hand). Table is really soft and we have both been taking advantage of it by Hand 1.
History leading up to this hand involves me triple barreling him with A high and him pushing over and showing 43o, and a little later, me doubling me up through him with a turned boat v his rivered straight. Before this hand, his opening about 40% of pots, and only showed down the hands in our history. I've been slightly less active but have shown down 2 or 3 winners with other people.
Hero: 14k
Villain:17k
Blinds: 50-100
I raise to 350 with AhAc from UTG, call from middle position, Villian calls from button.
Board comes 2h3h9s
I bet 800, middle folds, villain calls.
Turn is Kh
I bet 2400, he pushes, hero ?
Hand 2: 15 left with 13 cashing, I'm in 13/15 with 46,000 and average stack is about 100k. Blinds 4k-8k with 1k ante. I've been blinded down to about half my high stack from having no cards/being 3-bet.
BB has 42,000. SB has 28,000.
Folds to me. I push with 3o6o on button.
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02-07-2012, 12:10 AM
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#2
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grinder
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: 53.760047°N 9.659536°W, unshod, cut
Posts: 600
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Re: $150-1 early, 1 late spot
Hand 1 - Raise less pre. Snap turn. Don't bet turn if you won't imo.
Hand 2 - You have ~ 5 free hands left. You'll prolly get better than 6 high
don't bet fold with 13-10bb stack
Last edited by tripsONacid; 02-07-2012 at 12:18 AM.
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02-07-2012, 12:49 AM
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#3
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veteran
Join Date: Mar 2008
Posts: 2,523
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Re: $150-1 early, 1 late spot
hand 1 - turn is an easy c/c. turn sizing is way too big and allows him to put you in this spot. now we're definitely behind more often than we're ahead, but probably can't fold given that we always have 15-20% equity at worst.
hand 2 is a terrible, terrible shove.
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02-07-2012, 01:37 AM
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#4
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enthusiast
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: in your basement!
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Re: $150-1 early, 1 late spot
Hand 1, I'd really try to get some type of read. Knowing whether this guy thinks you are c-betting the flop or whether he is chasing a flush is crucial here.
Hand 2, if you really know what you're doing here, it could be a good way to pick up chips. For most players, I believe a fold is probably wisest.
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02-07-2012, 02:07 AM
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adept
Join Date: Sep 2011
Posts: 934
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Re: $150-1 early, 1 late spot
Hand 1: turn sizing is large, so you kinda have to call with the Ah anyway. i could be convinced to b/f smallish.
Hand 2: ez fold
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02-07-2012, 11:31 AM
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newbie
Join Date: Dec 2009
Posts: 43
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Re: $150-1 early, 1 late spot
1st hand it's an easy c/c. I was scared of creating a difficult river decision as I know he was capable of making a river play, can't play scared
2nd hand though, is it really that bad? I don't have fold equity to three-bet. SB and BB are scared money. The whole table has folded to me which is the first time in a while. If I can isolate heads up, which is the 2nd most likely outcome vs. gaining about 40% of my stack back with two folds, I have to pot odds to justify the call even though I'm a dog given his likely calling range I would think. So I see it as
60% of gaining 40% of my stack (fold)
40% chance of either doubling up (30%) or busting (70%) against thier expected range
Is that a worse option than waiting for a better hand for 5 hands on an active table where I'm really short and pushing the BB essentially blind if I don't get there?
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02-07-2012, 11:39 AM
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veteran
Join Date: Mar 2008
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Re: $150-1 early, 1 late spot
yes
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02-07-2012, 05:22 PM
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adept
Join Date: May 2010
Posts: 711
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Re: $150-1 early, 1 late spot
Hand 1: snapcall.
Hand 2: I like it. Abusing the bubble as live players will be tighter in these spots as they played longer and want to cash and you have been tight for some time but use reads. nh.
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02-07-2012, 11:23 PM
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grinder
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: 53.760047°N 9.659536°W, unshod, cut
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Re: $150-1 early, 1 late spot
But how good is 36 against the blinds calling range? dead to 33, 66+ A6, A3, K6s, K3s.
Spose its ok considering mega shortstack but shouldn't have let it get this short
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02-08-2012, 01:13 AM
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journeyman
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: philadelphia
Posts: 271
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Re: $150-1 early, 1 late spot
hand 1- I would prolly call, hand 2- never shove 36 there ppl will call light there
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02-09-2012, 07:31 AM
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grinder
Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 487
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Starcr0ss3d
Hand 2, if you really know what you're doing here, it could be a good way to pick up chips.
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WAT?
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02-09-2012, 07:53 AM
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Carpal \'Tunnel
Join Date: Mar 2008
Posts: 10,683
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Re: $150-1 early, 1 late spot
he covers both blinds 2 off the money in the second hand I think the shove may be fine, terrible I think is overstating the case though OP should probably include some more info on blinds
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02-09-2012, 07:54 AM
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Carpal \'Tunnel
Join Date: Mar 2008
Posts: 10,683
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Re: $150-1 early, 1 late spot
also look at the position of the two players with smaller stacks they are paying the blinds later and we are two off the money
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02-09-2012, 08:24 AM
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veteran
Join Date: Dec 2005
Posts: 2,336
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Re: $150-1 early, 1 late spot
Quote:
Originally Posted by Starcr0ss3d
Hand 1, I'd really try to get some type of read. Knowing whether this guy thinks you are c-betting the flop or whether he is chasing a flush is crucial here.
Hand 2, if you really know what you're doing here, it could be a good way to pick up chips. For most players, I believe a fold is probably wisest.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Preparac
WAT?
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This geez.. and shoving the button in hand 2 is spew... hand 1 is a c/c on the turn and a b/f with aces no heart imo.. as played im rly not sure that's a huge shove... i think id just fold and berate myself for doing this to myself
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