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01-26-2015 , 09:58 AM
We're early in a deep stack tournament with 16k starting stack. In this hand I have 35k stack. Villain 1 (UTG+2) has 11.5k and my read is scared. Villain 2 (Button) has bought late, and it is his very first hand, with 16k. Blinds are 150-300, no ante.

I am the BB, and am dealt 33. Five limpers go into the pot before me, and I check.

Flop ($1800): 10103

An OK flop, I think. With 5 limpers, I think the odds are very high another player has a 10. I also think, however, that they are going to check to disguise their hand. I decide to check, for three reasons. First, it's possible no one has a 10, and if I bet when there are no draws or over cards, the hand ends there. Second, if someone has a 10, I will get their chips on the turn and river. Third, a draw may come on the turn, giving me another customer. I check, and as expected, it checks around.

Turn ($1800): 6
A flush draw appears - excellent. I bet 1/2 pot ($900). I expect to get a call from flush draws and, more, I expect a raise from any 10s to price out a flush draw, which I can then reraise. Instead, Villains 1 and 2 call. Everyone else folds.

River ($4500): 5
The flush makes it. I bet $1700. It was small, probably too small, but I wanted to give my opponents plenty of room to raise. Instead, both Villains call. Villain 1 had K10 for trips, and Villain 2 has A9 for the nut flush. I take down a $9600 pot.

But I should have gotten more, dangit! Did I go wrong, or did the weak/passive nature of the Villains mean I was just not going to get paid off?

1. Should I have bet the flop? I would have lost Villain 2, but would I have gotten enough from Villain 1 to make up for it?

2. I think my turn bet was appropriate. Should it have been more?

3. Should I have bet more on the river? Should I have gone for the check-raise on the river?
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01-26-2015 , 10:49 AM
Tx isn't folding but is only likely to raise with a bigger full house. ditto flush draws.
lead $3k on the river and puke if anyone raises, otherwise wp
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01-26-2015 , 11:03 AM
I think the play is ok. I like to balance OTF by betting and checking. Just would bet more OTR.
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01-26-2015 , 06:06 PM
I agree I should have recognized that no one was going to try to take control of the hand otr with a raise and should have bet more.
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01-26-2015 , 09:51 PM
I might bet the flop here, with 5 limpers the chance someone has a T is pretty high, also don't forget you dont have the hand on lock yet, if you give a free card ott someone with 2 outer like 55 or 66 can bink on you and you likely lose your stack also Tx has a draw to beat you and we proly should charge him to draw out on you with a hand we should be getting 3 streets with.
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01-27-2015 , 08:17 PM
Bet more on the turn and river. Worst hands probably won't raise, as they have to worry about boats and flushes.
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01-27-2015 , 10:49 PM
Your play here depends entirely on how you've played thus far in the tournament w/ the players that are seated at your current table.

I would definitely mix it up, and bet OTF every once in a while for value. If somebody has 10x, he's going to come along and build the pot for another street or come over the top where you reraise all in.

If you have strong reads on the players and believe someone will take a stab OTT, etc., check OTF. I do not think checking OTF every time is correct, here, though.
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01-28-2015 , 09:26 AM
Might as well pot the river, no one is folding a flush. You stand to win more by betting this amount and get called by one opponent than you would if you got called by both when you bet 1700.
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01-28-2015 , 09:55 AM
2 x $3K is tastier.
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