Originally Posted by dereds
how exactly are you looking at the $ev?
atm not at all since we have no payouts
getting the $EV of folding is simple, look at the $EV value of each stack after posting blinds/antes
getting the $EV of shoving i showed here
put him on a opening range, see how often he will fold, see what equity you have when called. add up the numbers. compare the $EV of shoving to the $EV of folding.
shove should be >>> fold just by feel.
the EV of 3b/whatever can be done:
1) put him on an opening range
2) determine how often he will fold to a 3b (same math as 3bshoving, but he will fold less often)
3) -> determine how often he will 4bshove. then look at the $EV value when 3b/folding. look at the $EV number when you 3b/c and call&win. look at the $EV number when you call&lose. see if 3b/c&win - 3b/c&lose > 3b/f
hope that makes some sense. its easier with numbers.