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09-30-2013 , 06:52 AM

Voodoo974

grinder

Join Date: Nov 2012 Posts: 565

Hi, do you cbet in these spots, or we just have to c/f, or may be c/c against one opponent ?

Poker Stars €91+€9 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t125/t250 Blinds + t30 - 8 players -

BB: t8630 M = 14.03
UTG: t8335 M = 13.55
Hero (UTG+1): t24555 M = 39.93
MP1: t19136 M = 31.12
MP2: t18027 M = 29.31
CO: t8275 M = 13.46
BTN: t8570 M = 13.93
SB: t28603 M = 46.51

Pre Flop: (t615) Hero is UTG+1 with T

1 fold, Hero raises to t550, 2 folds, CO calls t550, 1 fold, SB calls t425, BB calls t300

Flop: (t2440) 7

(4 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero ?

EDIT: i forgot to say villains are fishy or random.

Last edited by Voodoo974; 09-30-2013 at 07:09 AM.

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09-30-2013 , 07:00 AM

Finnera

old hand

Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 1,621

id check and c what happens ott

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09-30-2013 , 07:07 AM

oldsilver

MTTLivePro

Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 5,941

depends on fit/fold nature of V's, but readless check and play a v small pot unless the 9h falls ott.

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09-30-2013 , 02:02 PM

Voodoo974

grinder

Join Date: Nov 2012 Posts: 565

Ok thanks, but i have some troubles with these spots (about second pair in MW pots)
In these hand i was told to cbet :
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/18...check-1370017/
So could some one explain to me the differences ?

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09-30-2013 , 11:43 PM

furo

deviation of equilibrium

Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 29,639

use the search "cbet or not". There was a thread where these situations were discussed

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10-01-2013 , 06:21 AM

Voodoo974

grinder

Join Date: Nov 2012 Posts: 565

Thanks i just finished to read it. So if i understand well, we're cbetting 99 on K85r but not TT on 89Jb because in the second one we're facing more DP and strong draws since the board is morre connected ?

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10-02-2013 , 08:03 AM

Rowniwn

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 4,091

bigger pre on .fr. c/c flop

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10-02-2013 , 05:46 PM

shichibukai

adept

Join Date: Jul 2013 Posts: 1,018

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Originally Posted by Voodoo974

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EDIT: i forgot to say villains are fishy or random.

explain what kind of fish

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10-02-2013 , 05:51 PM

Voodoo974

grinder

Join Date: Nov 2012 Posts: 565

Limping and flatting a lot pre.

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10-02-2013 , 06:06 PM

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shichibukai

adept

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Originally Posted by Voodoo974

Limping and flatting a lot pre.

i mean post flop

btw c/c otf and folding ott sounds good

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10-04-2013 , 12:46 AM

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gregz41

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 8,609

Check flop and call vs a single bet from the CO if the blinds both fold. If the blinds call CO's bet then just dump it. If it gets checked through, bet the blank turns and x/f the over cards.

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10-04-2013 , 07:08 AM

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Voodoo974

grinder

Join Date: Nov 2012 Posts: 565

Ok thanks guys, i agree with c/c, but still not sure why it was an obv cbet with 99 on K8xr :/ these spots were pretty similar to me.

And last question, is it still ok to c/c vs an aggro good player, since we rep exactly our hand ?

Last edited by Voodoo974; 10-04-2013 at 07:13 AM.

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10-04-2013 , 09:02 AM

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furo

deviation of equilibrium

Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 29,639

On K82 he can Peel wider and has no draws so you have more equity vs his range

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