$100 sunday tournament at South Point in Las Vegas. T10,000 starting stacks. The following happens with blinds at 100/200

UTG all in for T2,800
UTG+1 all in for T12,500
MP all in for T9,500
Hero has T12,000 OTB with AKo

UTG is a decent player but is short and looking to double up. I put him on any pair, KJ+,A8+
UTG+1 is a wildly belligerent drunk woman who has called an all in on the flop with Q high, has called an all in PF with 94o, and is playing like a flat out maniac.
MP had not been active at all, i didn't even realize he was at the table until this hand. I give him a range of 99+, AQ+.

I look down at AKo and want to call, but I also want to fold. If that nit isn't in the hand I snap call and feel good about it. But his involvement in the hand made me really unsure of what to do here. What's the correct play here?

Fist-pump snap fold.

Snap call didn't even read

Rly?

These are not short stacks and that's one bloody battlefield out there. We're not even sooooted.

I'd like more info on the 94o hand (stack depths, etc.) but why would we want to risk our whole stack in a live tournament to this kind of action.

so. did you not read the descriptions?

[QUOTE=xJAE14x;40399288]$100 sunday tournament at South Point in Las Vegas. T10,000 starting stacks. The following happens with blinds at 100/200

UTG is a decent player but is short and looking to double up. I put him on any pair, KJ+,A8+
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That's quite a wide range you ascribe for a 14BB shove UTG with no antes. If he's decent and knows Nash, his range should be nowhere close to that. Also smart players should be shoving tighter than Nash in EP and wider than Nash in LP given calling tendencies.

Yes, I read the descriptions. This is a fun little stove exercise, so I'll try and get it around to it in the next twenty-four hours or so.

My first instinct is to snap fold, putting 60 bigs in 4 way with no fold equity with AK in a liveament just seems completely unecessary. Did the woman reshove when she was calling peoples' all ins light or just flat? Her putting her whole stack in here probably strengthens her range a fair bit. MP's range is probably very tight like JJ+/AK, maybe tighter. I think this is a fairly easy fold.

http://gyazo.com/d4cfd8f83b406de5b59fcf54f23d1ce8

Ok so this doesn't include UTG's 2800 open jam but I don't think that will change our overall equity against the bigger stacks at all really since I assigned their ranges knowing UTG jammed. So UTG+1 I gave 77+/AJ+/ATs+ which is still pretty wide especially if she's not jamming her entire range but is flatting some of it. And MP JJ+/AK.

So yeah we only have profitable jams with QQ+ here, and if their ranges were tighter it's prob KK+.

Normally, a really easy fold to this action. However, based on the description of the the 2nd shover for 62xBB being a wild drunk, it is probably a call.

The short stack was pretty pissed at how the woman was playing, his table talk made it clear he wanted to shove preflop just to get her to play any two cards and call. I wasn't overly concerned with his hand.

History on 94o hand. I don't recall stack sizes but she raised PF, a medium-ish stack (around T5000) 3bet shoved on her and she snap called with 94o and it held up. In about 20 min i saw her stack go down to T2,000, then up to T20,000 then back down to where she was at the time this hand took place.

And just for the sake of the story, the tourney paid 5 players and she got kicked out of the casino with 7 players left. This was after 2 penalties and countless warnings.

lol liveaments

so much more enjoyable for this reason than online. I mean chat boxes and various emoticons just aren't the same.

Yeah I like playing live every so often to get a break from online, but I couldn't do it on a consistent basis like traveling pros.

ROFL

Text results appended to pokerstove.txt

11,725,109 games 16.641 secs 704,591 games/sec

Board:
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 21.128% 20.10% 01.03% 2356207 121065.92 { 66+, A4s+, K8s+, Q9s+, J9s+, T9s, A9o+, KTo+, QTo+, JTo }
Hand 1: 17.251% 16.88% 00.37% 1978971 43803.33 { random }
Hand 2: 35.845% 31.87% 03.97% 3737095 465937.33 { 99+, AQs+, AKo }
Hand 3: 25.776% 21.30% 04.48% 2496935 525407.00 { AcKd }


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I would snap call, AK obv dominates her perceived range. We have to worry about mp but were flipping against most of his range and dominating aq/ aj. If we call and bink an ace or a king we triple up and have a massive stack. Maybe I'm wrong, I don't play live I'm not even 21, but this call can't be bad?

Edit: just read oldsilvers post, this is a bad spot if mp's range is 99+, AK, AQs. I would think mp's range would be a lot wider because he realizes the lady is a drunk fish. I don't play live though so my opinion isn't that useful so sorry for a bad post lol.

hand 2 will be wider than that assuming its obvious she has a randon hand

snap call...

tourney pays only 5. either go up big quick or go get drunk....

I don't know if we can assume woman has a random hand, but if she likely has a wide range, then it is a call.

given there's a 5k sidepot between us and the maniac if we call I call, if the last all in covered I'd fold

Fold - the 3rd All In is cause for concern if you put him on 99+
UTG who is competent too is taking your outs or you are flipping with him. You're not in for anything except playing a multi pot being at best a 50% fav, but more thank likely not. Still 50+ bb deep, and you'll have position on these players.

+1. was waiting to make this point. Not sure about the last part tho.

Kind of read-dependent and dependent on how wide the drunk woman's range is. If she really is pushing ATC for 62xBB, then it is an easy call. If she is pushing 50%, you probably have to call too. Tighter than that, it is a question of whether you want to gamble your stack on a slightly cEV+ call. If everyone was playing correctly, of course it would be an easy fold.

so we actually benefit if she's slightly tighter because it means we have her dominated more often

it's closer then and I'd be depending on whatever reads I had but he should be wide enough regardless given just how wide she's likely to be. I doubt it'd be a massive mistake either way then

1) Our hand is AKo, not A9s.
2) WHy not include the initial jammer?
3) Maniac's range should be wider.