Vilain plays something like 22/15 over 50 hands (one 3-bet), and seems probably competent. The only thing I know about him is that he checked back 3 times HU with AK high on a dry board after 3-betting pretty big against a 30BBs stack. Not really hepfull there. I'm not sure about my image, but certainly nothing special, no crazy dynamic, obv, nothing.


PokerStars - €91+€9|400/800 NL (9 max) - Holdem - 8 players

Hero (BB): 19,828.00
UTG: 94,026.00
UTG+1: 55,471.00
MP: 47,946.00
MP+1: 47,475.00
CO: 57,151.00
BTN: 18,024.00
SB: 41,690.00

Hero posts ante 100.00, UTG posts ante 100.00, UTG+1 posts ante 100.00, MP posts ante 100.00, MP+1 posts ante 100.00, CO posts ante 100.00, BTN posts ante 100.00, SB posts ante 100.00, SB posts SB 400.00, Hero posts BB 800.00

Pre Flop: (2000.00) Hero has T A

fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, SB calls 400.00, Hero raises to 1,855.00, SB raises to 5,600.00

Thoughts ?

$%^& him and shovel now...people limp reraise pretty light BVB for value

i'm not folding ... what's wrong with calling now?

Calling ? As in "calling to see a flop" ?

calling 1/4 of our stack pf and folding when we don't hit?

shoving cause he can have worse aces that he didn't want to openship or r/c.

because there are a ton of hands he may call a shove with pre that we beat

This is .fr and with that line and sizing I'm aftaid they are gonna have us beat.

Don't get me wrong, I fistpump shove this every time even on .fr. However having played more mtts there than approximately no one on 2p2 I can pretty confidently say what this means (assuming he's a frenchtard in this nightly night on stars 100€/40k that I think this is from).

The people who habitually limp, and then think you're fos when you raise and then limpraise to punish your "stupid aggro" ass just don't use this sizing as a bluff. I mean they generally limpcall c/r flops in the first place (the favourite line of .fr fishes) and don't usually limpraise pre, and even if they once in a million years did limpraise as a bluff they would not make it that big. When they limpraise big they always always always have AJ+TT+ basically. Don't ask me why, I know it logically should be the other way around, that's just how frenchtards roll. On any other site I think it's a much clearer shove.

But yeah I'm all in.

I didn't even really think about it, actually, snap shoved and lost to QQ.

dumb grammar mistake, meant anyone instead of no one in the above post obviously

1200 and fist pump shove

we would be more happy if he limp shoved but std spot imo.
cooler.

sounds fine to me without the QQ part
nh

This is like ALWAYS a hand

Approximately .

Confirmed. Don't understand why you would shove despite this range though.

I'm getting mixed signals, there... Do they always have the nuts or should I shove ? Seems absurd to think that both are true.

You should fold quickly imo.

You should shove because you have 24bb bvb with ATs against a french limper who's running 22/15.

I'd have to be in sick spiderman mode to actually fold, but I'm afraid they do have the nuts here way more often than they should because it's .fr.

since a majority of hands posted in this forum are bad beats you should fold
mostly he calls or folds vs the raises or spazzes out with T8o or something he did not want to r/f.

but if you are a nit and would not raise the limp wide + would fold alot of hands preflop completing monsters/raising air is a better (or at least good) line for him vs you.
if you are aggressive dont even think about folding this whatever line he takes unless you have a read that the complete is monsters.

In particular in this specific tourney which is, as you well know, the biggest daily mtt on ps.fr (leave away the 300€ HR who gets 35 plyrs). Vilain probably has an ABI <15€ and is probably much more scared money than usual (cf the AK checked on 3 streets), which makes it an easier fold imho.

that would be impressive.

I dont have Chuck Bass French people reads but 25bbs sooted AT bvb--Im getting all my chips in. I certainly wouldnt ever be iso/folding a hand this strong.

a lot of the mixed signals came after you posted results...

just saying......

OT:

Posts: 4990

paging a big 5k post from a true hero?

My guess is my 5k post will be

I don't play these stakes, but play on .fr, and this is NEVER a bluff. It is even a tighter range that what chuck says. (always KK+ in my stakes)
I once folded TT in some similar spot and was right.
I once almost folded KK in some similar post and would have been right.

It's like a sticky I have now : limp reraise? I foldsky
(just think about phill helmut style, and that's how they play here)

yeah, french sux hat ze pokerz, and please don't come and play there cause I have good fun with my fellow tricky players.

if you are folding 1010-KK BVB to a limp reraise I am happy to mess with you at the tables sir