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05-27-2012, 03:06 PM
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old hand
Join Date: May 2008
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10$ rebuy, TT flop decision
Villain is playing 22/9/7af for 132 hands
what is your line preflop/on flop?
NL Holdem $250(BB), ante $25
SB ($4,120)
Hero ($7,174)
UTG ($6,625)
UTG+1 ($25,383)
UTG+2 ($10,270)
MP1 ($7,801)
MP2 ($18,078)
MP3 ($3,591)
CO ($9,259)
BTN ($13,955)
Dealt to Hero T  T
fold, fold, UTG+2 raises to $625, fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, Hero calls $375
FLOP ($1,625) 6  5  2
Hero checks, UTG+2 bets $911,
Hero?
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05-27-2012, 03:26 PM
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banned
Join Date: Aug 2011
Posts: 5,043
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Re: 10$ rebuy, TT flop decision
Call one, re-eval ott.
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05-27-2012, 04:09 PM
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Pooh-Bah
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Auburn, AL
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Re: 10$ rebuy, TT flop decision
Quote:
Originally Posted by Elephants_pride
Call one, re-eval ott.
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+1
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05-27-2012, 04:43 PM
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old hand
Join Date: May 2008
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Re: 10$ rebuy, TT flop decision
FLOP ($1,625) 6  5  2
Hero checks, UTG+2 bets $911, Hero calls $911
TURN ($3,447) 6  5  2  A
Hero checks, UTG+2 bets $1,125,
Hero?
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05-27-2012, 05:02 PM
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banned
Join Date: Aug 2011
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Re: 10$ rebuy, TT flop decision
Doubt he has worse now often enough even at that price since Ax got there.
Might be valuebetting thin KK-QQ.
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05-27-2012, 06:04 PM
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grinder
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Prague
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Re: 10$ rebuy, TT flop decision
sizing OTT doesn't look like he wants you to fold.
and i don't like to invest a lot of chips in a bluff here, so just fold
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05-27-2012, 08:14 PM
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Pooh-Bah
Join Date: Apr 2010
Posts: 5,353
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Re: 10$ rebuy, TT flop decision
yeah fold, if we were considerably deeper this is a great spot to try and rep a set imo.
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05-28-2012, 05:13 AM
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grinder
Join Date: Mar 2011
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Re: 10$ rebuy, TT flop decision
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Originally Posted by gregz41
yeah fold, if we were considerably deeper this is a great spot to try and rep a set imo.
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not in a 10r imo. fold turn, although i can still see him having worse some of the time. sizing is prob value, very rarely he might do this with 77-99 to get cheap showdown by keeping the initiative. and his value range crushes your hand pretty much.
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05-28-2012, 06:40 AM
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old hand
Join Date: Sep 2011
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Re: 10$ rebuy, TT flop decision
c/r/soulread flop smallish imo to 1999. there are 16 possible overs ott, to make your life miserable. its bluffish, and a 22/9 drooler would likely not fold AQ or mid pair type hands, so could work for value as well.
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05-28-2012, 06:59 AM
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Carpal \'Tunnel
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Meath
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Re: 10$ rebuy, TT flop decision
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Originally Posted by Finnera
c/r/soulread flop smallish imo to 1999. there are 16 possible overs ott, to make your life miserable. its bluffish, and a 22/9 drooler would likely not fold AQ or mid pair type hands, so could work for value as well.
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This is terrible advice
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05-28-2012, 07:33 AM
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old hand
Join Date: Sep 2011
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Re: 10$ rebuy, TT flop decision
dear dereds, if you say something is terrible, then you must say also WHY it is terrible. this is the simplest of etiquettes...
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05-28-2012, 07:50 AM
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deviation of equilibrium
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Germany
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Re: 10$ rebuy, TT flop decision
3b/c pre
i wonder why everyone flats here OOP vs an aggressive 22/x
turn is close, his AF is very high, you have to expect tons of barrels from him.
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05-28-2012, 08:34 AM
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Carpal \'Tunnel
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Meath
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Re: 10$ rebuy, TT flop decision
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Originally Posted by Finnera
dear dereds, if you say something is terrible, then you must say also WHY it is terrible. this is the simplest of etiquettes...
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no I don't,
not when it's either self evident or you thinking about why it's terrible would be more use to you than me telling you
check raise soulread after putting in over 1/3 of your stack with TT on 652r after starting the hand with ~28bb's is awful
what may also be considered terrible is check raising then having to soul read because you don't know what you are doing to a shove
think more post less
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05-28-2012, 08:51 AM
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Pooh-Bah
Join Date: Apr 2010
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Re: 10$ rebuy, TT flop decision
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Originally Posted by furo
3b/c pre
i wonder why everyone flats here OOP vs an aggressive 22/x
turn is close, his AF is very high, you have to expect tons of barrels from him.
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I thought about 3b/c, it certainly isn't terrible. I dont think Afq is that reliable though
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05-28-2012, 09:01 AM
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deviation of equilibrium
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Germany
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Re: 10$ rebuy, TT flop decision
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Originally Posted by gregz41
I thought about 3b/c, it certainly isn't terrible. I dont think Afq is that reliable though
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AF is an indicater and his turn bet is pretty small + we dont have alot of Ax (or better) in our range here.
ppl usually play turn the most "face up" when facing another bet.
it's certainly not a nobrainer c/f.
i want to 3b/c since it negates his positional advantage in a HU pot and bc i usually be percieved to be lighter than average joe,
i get why alot of players dont want to 3b/c here, but i dont agree with it.
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