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04-19-2014 , 06:23 PM

zanardi1

old hand

Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 1,589

Villain is running 27/10/0 with 0.9 agg.
Trivial fold otr?
Thoughts on line?

No Limit Holdem Tournament
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8 Players
Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight.com
$10+$1

Stacks:
Hero (UTG) (20,778) 69bb
UTG+1 (7,493) 25bb
MP1 (14,778) 49bb
MP2 (12,365) 41bb
CO (7,348) 24bb
BTN (9,530) 32bb
SB (5,215) 17bb
BB (14,476) 48bb

Blinds: 150/300 Ante 60

Pre-Flop: (930, 8 players) Hero is UTG J

Hero raises to 600, 1 fold, MP1 calls 600, 5 folds

Flop: 8

(2,130, 2 players)
Hero checks, MP1 bets 1,200, Hero calls 1,200

Turn: 9

(4,530, 2 players)
Hero bets 2,400, MP1 calls 2,400

River: 8

(9,330, 2 players)
Hero bets 2,700, MP1 goes all-in 10,518, Hero???

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04-19-2014 , 07:38 PM

ibimon

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Join Date: Apr 2013 Posts: 998

sick river spot
many hands on V?
don't mind c/calling or c-beting, but I prefer to c-bet with our hand.
Turn bet bigger to "protect" against FD.
if you have many hands on V with that agg you can find a fold OTR.
But if I am folding, I am going to put the timer on and go make myself a cup of tea.

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04-19-2014 , 08:41 PM

Turbulenc3

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call because it looks like you have no sets in your range, and you only bet 1/3 pot

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04-22-2014 , 09:09 AM

jungix

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Sick river, I wonder what you think the villain is raising with: after OP lead on the turn and small bet on the river that looks so nutty you could very well have the Jc, I think even raising a boat in his spot looks a bit thin to me : if he's raising he Kc is that for value or turning his flush into a bluff ?

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04-22-2014 , 09:17 AM

lissistinkt

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doesnt seem that sick to me vs this line

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04-22-2014 , 09:59 AM

oldsilver

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you don't have nutflush
Jc is nutflush
6c is 2ndnutflush
88 is 3rdnutquads
many other combos is full house
Ac is 62ndnutsomething

easiest b/f against V repped range

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04-22-2014 , 10:03 AM

lissistinkt

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we have the nutflush

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04-22-2014 , 10:10 AM

oldsilver

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i know what u mean, u know what i mean

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04-22-2014 , 10:33 AM

princekuh1o

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b/f seems good after villain stations that turn especially. I like river sizing too probably 3k tho.

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04-22-2014 , 11:29 AM

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Puzo

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Wp if you folded OTR.

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04-22-2014 , 01:43 PM

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AKupaA

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Why do you lead the turn?

Easy fold OTR, he's rarely shoving a worse hand.

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04-22-2014 , 04:21 PM

#12

mort_paris

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Join Date: Apr 2014 Posts: 20

Check/call turn (if he bets small)
Check/call River

If you like to bet turns like that (villain folding much to 2nd Barrel), Then you should Check/call this sick River. If you bet River You Never got his bluffing Range in and you nearly get no value by betting, so c/c Easy River and you got an easier Spot.

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04-22-2014 , 05:58 PM

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user12345

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Join Date: Mar 2014 Posts: 3,737

Quote:

Originally Posted by oldsilver

i know what u mean, u know what i mean

I don`t know what you mean
we have teh nut flush.
the fact opponent can have a boat or a better made hand doesn`t change it!

I think flop is a bet
and rest is fine if you folded.

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04-22-2014 , 06:51 PM

#14

AKupaA

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Quote:

Originally Posted by user12345

we have teh nut flush.

Are you sure?

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04-22-2014 , 07:05 PM

#15

hitchens97

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I might c-bet flop.

Are we too worried that flop hits villains range too hard?

As played, I think it's a fold, not sure I personally find it.

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04-23-2014 , 02:26 AM

#16

Dragons_Egg

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b/f river looks good to me, but i would have bet a little bit more. Your river sizing looks a little suss/scared and now you need to wonder whether your opponent has interpreted it like that or not.

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04-23-2014 , 08:13 AM

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NimhOfJoy

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Originally Posted by AKupaA

Are you sure?

If we're gonna be nitty about it, we have the nut (read: best) flush. The other hands mentioned were straight flushes.

As for actual strategy, I'd like to hear more about why we're leading the turn. If we are though, I think I'd rather lead a little bigger so we can jam the river ourselves.

As played, it's a fold v a fishy villain.

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04-23-2014 , 08:22 AM

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oldsilver

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Originally Posted by NimhOfJoy

The other hands mentioned were straight flushes.

they're still flushes

Last edited by oldsilver; 04-23-2014 at 08:52 AM.

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04-23-2014 , 09:12 AM

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oldsilver

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http://extempore.livejournal.com/52372.html

actually if Paul Phillips agrees with you, you're prob right

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