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Originally Posted by angel zera
Will reply more later but for now I don't want to forget--quick thoughts:
1. So very bizarre to me that AA for the SB is a pure r400, and that the limping rate goes up as we descend from KK down to 66. It doesn't seem to make much sense to me. An important followup Q: does PIO allow for SB to limp AA and then merely flat a BB raise? This is something I've done with AA in the SB vs. aggro opponents.
2. The BB strat of raising with the trashiest hands makes sense, and I'm glad to see something I do in game be validated with PIO--I typically make it 3.5x or so with really bad hands in the BB vs. a SB limp, figuring that that approach has to outperform checking, but was always wondering in the back of my mind if I was secretly spewing.
3. PIO seems to advocate raise/calling from the BB with hands like KTo or QJs, but I can't say that vs. population I feel particularly great about implementing this, as I think their limp/jam range is far from correct. I would typically check these back or raise/fold in game. Tough spot in game for sure.
1. I noticed that too and I think it's pretty amazing actually. There's definitely a notion of internal consistency there, no? Raise the tippy-top of our range and mix with less, mixing limp more and more the weaker we get.
And then eventually we reach an inflection point starting at 55--pairs 22-55 are so weak they need as much protection as possible AND V still calls with worse such that jamming 22-55 is unilaterally higher EV.
This internal consistency is one of several aspects of the results that make me feel pretty confident they've converged sufficiently.
The strat is the strat. If you're limping AA in this spot you're either leaking, or being exploitative (perhaps you think V underdefends vs opens but somehow overraises vs limps, or something like that). In the process, you're opening yourself up to exploitation vs a GTO villain (you aren't capturing enough EV vs that type of V if you limp AA)
2. Yeah, it's another I think really amazing result, how we're concentrating our bluffs in that (if the strat chart we're a Cartesian plane) 3rd quadrant and only in that quadrant. This is what polarization visually looks like--it concerns raising 2nd and 3rd quadrant hands (and of course pairs and Ax bc those are too strong not to raise generally)
3. Here's the SB response to an open. You can compare that to a real-life strat you expect V to play however you like, and then figure out whether it makes sense to r/c in BB vs a limp w/ KTo, QJs, etc in practice. If V isn't l/j, say, K6s, then BB r/c w/ KTo may not be viable--but your V is deviating wildly from GTO in that case and is highly exploitable in other ways.
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