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08-17-2006 , 03:51 PM

#76

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hurry up - some people can't wait around all day for the next action.

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08-17-2006 , 09:14 PM

#77

Assani Fisher

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you're going to have to explain this one, buddy. Why on earth risk so much to win so little?

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08-17-2006 , 11:26 PM

#78

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hurry up - some people can't wait around all day for the next action.

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08-18-2006 , 12:53 AM

#79

bobbycharles

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This cadaver was found in an ancient dwelling known as an apartment dating back to 2006...He was grasping an ancient scroll in his hand with the words: Assani Fisher's Play Along thread. We can only speculate as to what this means.

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08-18-2006 , 01:44 AM

#80

Eulysses

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GET TO THE TURN CARD!!

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08-18-2006 , 04:24 AM

#81

JSchnett

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ALL-IN AND SAVE ME THE TORTURE OF READING THIS.
This is the most inefficient thread ever.

Call preflop is fine, I would be more prone to call here in later possition. Check the flop and move on to the something of

turn that will make this hand somewhat interesting.

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11-14-2006 , 07:54 AM

#82

Assani Fisher

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Sorry for the delay. Ok, so I check the flop. LP checks fairly quickly behind me. I don't think he has much at all.

The turn is the ace non-diamond giving me an inside straight draw.

SB checks, continuing to show weakness. The BB thinks it over for a while. As he is thinking he takes a sip of his tea, and I know this is going go sound weird, but he suddenly throws up all over the floor. Luckily he missed the table and cards. I had not seen him throw up ever before, but I did see him burp heavily and kinda throw up in his mouth a little bit once, and on that hand he was slowplaying a monster. So its a bit tough to say exactly what info to take from the throw up. Anyway, he checks.

Now folded over to the initial raiser who almost insta-checks. He could possibly have just hit trip aces. He does slowplay a lot...but man thats a weird way to play them.

Well now for the second time this has been checked to me. I'm 90% sure that the SB has nothing and that the LP had nothing on the flop. Not sure about the other two. Now whats your move?

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11-14-2006 , 08:00 AM

#83

Assani Fisher

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btw, I just want to add:

Please don't fully trust the reads that I'm giving you. I am trying to give you my honest thoughts on each player BEFORE THIS HAND, but this was the first time I had played with most of them, so these aren't really strong reads. Take them for what they're worth please.

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11-14-2006 , 08:00 AM

#84

SuperUberBob

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I fold due to risk of reraise from behind.

I concur.

OP, if you were in a later position with a lot of callers in front, I'd definitely call. However, if I saw somebody call a minraise, I would believe that the callers are really weak and that a big enough repop would get rid of most of them. I would also think that a lot of players behind you would repop with a larger range of hands simply because it is only a minraise.

Not the right spot to play connectors.

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11-14-2006 , 08:02 AM

#85

Assani Fisher

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But don't you think that the min raise from a tricky player would deter many players from minraising? Moreover since I made a rather strange call out of position, don't you'd think that perhaps they'd even put me on a monster?

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11-14-2006 , 08:09 AM

#86

SuperUberBob

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I think you're giving your opponents too much credit.

Anyways, check/fold flop. UTG's actions stink of a slowplay to me.

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11-14-2006 , 08:14 AM

#87

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As he is thinking he takes a sip of his tea, and I know this is going go sound weird, but he suddenly throws up all over the floor. Luckily he missed the table and cards. I had not seen him throw up ever before, but I did see him burp heavily and kinda throw up in his mouth a little bit once, and on that hand he was slowplaying a monster. So its a bit tough to say exactly what info to take from the throw up. Anyway, he checks.

Now whats your move?

I start laughing hysterically.

Edit: can you clarify the board and pot size and participants for everyone just to make it easier?

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11-14-2006 , 02:30 PM

#88

Assani Fisher

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Stack sizes are approximate due to my fuzzy memory, but they were somewhat close to this IIRC:

SB- 14,000
BB- 25,000
EP- 21,000
Me- 17,000
LP- 15,000

Board: 2h-7d-Jc-As

My hand: 4d5d

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11-14-2006 , 03:01 PM

#89

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I'm still loving the 'pukes in his mouth' tell. And I still can't how we can bet here with 4 outs, which aren't clean, into a five way pot. The most I'd do is watch LP for a position raise and then force myself NOT to come over the top of that if everybody else folds.

This thread has been worth it for the barfing but when does the hand get interesting? This is like a £10 freezeout on Crypto.

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11-14-2006 , 03:34 PM

#90

Bullet_Dodger

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Let's see if we can get to the river by new years.

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11-14-2006 , 03:53 PM

#91

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Let's see if we can get to the river by new years 2012 .

Seriously, I just laugh every time this thread gets bumped.

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11-14-2006 , 03:55 PM

#92

Assani Fisher

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I'll be posting this hand in steps. Once discussion about a particular decision has died down I'll say what I did next and what else happpened.

$4000 buy in MTT, about 300 entrants, 40 spots pay. Start with 10,000 chips.

Play has been going on for about 2 hours. Blinds are now 100/200. I have been at the same table the entire time, but quite a few people have busted and new people have been shuffled in. I have 17,000 in chips, which is slightly above average in the tourney but is slightly below average at the table.

I'm in EP with 4-5 of diamonds.

UTG is a tricky player who limp with monsters and many times will slowplay too much and get himself in trouble. He will also occassionally make moves that are simply weird and pretty unexplainable. He looks at his cards, takes a longer time than usual to act, and min. raises to 400. I have never seen him min. raise or raise from EP.

I'm next to act.

I do have reads on several of the players behind me...Generally speaking, several of them are very loose with their calls. I will give more details on specific players as they become pertinent to the hand.

Even though I'm out of position, I decide that the stacks are so deep and theres a decent chance that he has a monster that maybe I could take his whole stack here. I'll take a gamble and call. Thoughts on this? Too loose? I'll stop here for now...

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11-14-2006 , 03:58 PM

#93

KramerTM

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The man is busy running oats. Jeez, everyone ease up and be happy he updates this thread at all.

No socks for God's sake!!

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11-14-2006 , 04:19 PM

#94

Assani Fisher

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I think you're giving your opponents too much credit.

Anyways, check/fold flop. UTG's actions stink of a slowplay to me.

This is a $4000 buy in tournament. I'm not saying that to brag, but I think that perhaps you're not giving my opponents enough credit.

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11-14-2006 , 04:20 PM

#95

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I'll be posting this hand in steps. Once discussion about a particular decision has died down I'll say what I did next and what else happpened.

$4000 buy in MTT, about 300 entrants, 40 spots pay. Start with 10,000 chips.

Play has been going on for about 2 hours but this one hand is so uninteresting that it will take a year to generate any kind of discussion. Blinds are now 100/200. I have been at the same table the entire time, but quite a few people have busted and new people have been shuffled in. I have 17,000 in chips, which is slightly above average in the tourney but is slightly below average at the table.

I'm in EP with 4-5 of diamonds.

UTG is a tricky player who limp with monsters and many times will slowplay too much and get himself in trouble. He will also occassionally make moves that are simply weird and pretty unexplainable. He looks at his cards, takes a longer time than usual to act, and min. raises to 400. I have never seen him min. raise or raise from EP.

I'm next to act.

I do have reads on several of the players behind me...Generally speaking, several of them are very loose with their calls. I will give more details on specific players as they become pertinent to the hand.

Even though I'm out of position, I decide that the stacks are so deep and theres a decent chance that he has a monster that maybe I could take his whole stack here. I'll take a gamble and call. Thoughts on this? Too loose? I'll stop here for a few months with hope that someone has a comment relevant to this hand...

FYP

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11-14-2006 , 04:23 PM

#96

Assani Fisher

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I don't think it had trouble generating discussion at all. In fact, as soon as I posted it the responses began to come in pretty heavily. But whatever...I'm not really concerned with it being "interesting"; I'm concerned with us all possibly learning something and improving our games.

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11-14-2006 , 04:29 PM

#97

KramerTM

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Yeah, but dude... half of my leaks have already been plugged since this thread started. [censored], I think Fossilman even posted at the beginning of this thread referencing a $3r hand he played on Stars.