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08-05-2017 , 08:28 AM

fagfgff

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Join Date: Jan 2016 Posts: 56

Hi,
I was at final table and had KQ in cutoff, I minraised got shoved on and had to fold, should I just push this hand and minraise with hands that are weaker? But doesnt this make me exploitable?

Are you in push fold mode with this stack? How do you play with 12-18BB stack?

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08-05-2017 , 10:40 AM

OutPlayU27

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Join Date: May 2013 Posts: 1,688

It depends.
Stack sizes at table/ICM if is FT, players at the table/left to act (if they are good, weak, tight etc.)
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Last edited by OutPlayU27; 08-05-2017 at 10:44 AM. Reason: even tho is a FT and ICM ****s us all, i will try to play the best strategy and think ´´outside of the box´´

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08-05-2017 , 10:49 AM

tboneparte

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Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 3,378

Lot of factors are gonna play into what is best in this scenario but with 17bb, at a FT, and this specific holding, jamming should mostly be our go to decision since it is unexploitable and takes the ICM pressure off us and applies it to others. With some v passive/weak players behind, mr/f could be a preferable option.

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08-05-2017 , 04:36 PM

SickCall

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Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 68

Really depends on the stacksizes, especially to your left. Say the button has an overwhelming chiplead and you are tied for second place with another player and we have smaller stacks in the blinds. He can just shove relentlessly on us here and print $.

Think I generally lead to shove this type of hand in this pos/bb. You can raise say jj +(depending on the situation ofc) + some A blockers and some other hands that makes decent TP when called pre.

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08-06-2017 , 12:29 PM

wowsooooted

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Join Date: Jan 2013 Posts: 5,077

generally it should be fine to jam heaps of spots with 3 to act w a hand that has excellent blocker value for 15 - 18bb instead of r/c or r/f

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08-06-2017 , 04:32 PM

jpgiro

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Join Date: Feb 2016 Posts: 1,439

I have recently started playing the 12-20BB stack depths in a polarized way, where I'll min-raise my nut hands (where I intend to call off) and hands that aren't good enough to shove but have some post-flop playability and I'm ok with folding to a shove. I'll then just shove everything in between.

As to KQ specifically, ugh, it's close. I can see vs. some jam happy villains min-raising with the intention of calling off being fine, but as a general rule we're probably safer just open jamming.

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08-07-2017 , 07:24 PM

imfromsweden

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Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 10,152

Not a huge fan of shoving KQo in CO on the final table for 18bb... Your range is so face up that everyone will basically play perfectly against you, except low Ax that might reshove but wont call a shove. I generally really dislike having face up ranges... Probably i mr/fold.

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08-14-2017 , 01:56 AM

MerginHosOn24s

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Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 1,083

two main points

1.) Need more information about stacks and dynamics in these spots. 17bb might be too much to just cram

2.) How often are players behind u flatting or defending their blinds?

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