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11-28-2013 , 04:34 PM

dogarse

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Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 3,985

Two spots that came up this morning and I really have no idea what to do in either.

First one in the big $55 V is 0/0 over 6 hands.

Poker Stars, $50 Buy-in (15/30 blinds) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 9 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #21129891

UTG+1: 2,955 (98.5 bb)
UTG+2: 2,765 (92.2 bb)
MP1: 10,750 (358.3 bb)
MP2: 3,000 (100 bb)
MP3: 2,414 (80.5 bb)
CO: 4,405 (146.8 bb)
Hero (BTN): 3,135 (104.5 bb)
SB: 2,970 (99 bb)
BB: 3,180 (106 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BTN with A

6 folds, Hero raises to 90, SB folds, BB raises to 210

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Next one is about 2 minutes later in the $13.50KO V is something like 44/33 over 9 hands and I was a bit annoyed about the first one.

Poker Stars, $12.50 Buy-in (40/80 blinds) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 9 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #21129901

SB: 1,481 (18.5 bb)
BB: 3,000 (37.5 bb)
UTG+1: 3,882 (48.5 bb)
UTG+2: 6,373 (79.7 bb)
MP1: 3,968 (49.6 bb)
MP2: 2,955 (36.9 bb)
MP3: 7,256 (90.7 bb)
CO: 3,330 (41.6 bb)
Hero (BTN): 3,935 (49.2 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BTN with K

6 folds, Hero raises to 160, SB folds, BB raises to 400, Hero raises to 960, BB raises to 3,000 and is all-in

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What's best line in each? are they both just folds vs the re-steal?

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11-28-2013 , 06:03 PM

MasterJ009

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We are preante, why would we try to stay in this pot??? Just fold both. Would you ever have a reason he's 3betting light?

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11-28-2013 , 10:17 PM

gregz41

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Yeah folding both to the 3bet.

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11-28-2013 , 10:36 PM

shichibukai

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easy folds and move on

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11-28-2013 , 10:44 PM

bumpnrun

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Yep ^^ . Trying too hard early, buckle up and concentrate more on winning flips later

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11-28-2013 , 10:53 PM

dogarse

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Thanks. I think this is a huge leak in my game.

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11-28-2013 , 11:41 PM

MakingMoves

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Both are good 4bet hands when you think your opponent is exploiting your wide bu opening range by 3bet bluffing often. Both are poor 4 bet hands in this spot until you think this. Against randoms I don't expect them to be exploiting you here.

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11-29-2013 , 05:28 AM

oldsilver

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it's level 1. play level 1.

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11-29-2013 , 01:32 PM

FatsoFat6969

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seems absurd to bother doing anything other than folding both

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11-30-2013 , 07:17 AM

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supermanatemydog

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folding hand 1 to 3b
folding hand 2 period.

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11-30-2013 , 06:58 PM

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NeverScaredB

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For everyone that wants to fold hand 1: how small does the BB have to make it for you to call?

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11-30-2013 , 07:03 PM

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cicakman

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210

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12-01-2013 , 12:05 AM

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MakingMoves

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Originally Posted by NeverScaredB

For everyone that wants to fold hand 1: how small does the BB have to make it for you to call?

Didn't recognize how small it was. Getting this price with stacks as deep as they are, I'd flat every hand from my opening range that I didn't want to 4bet.

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