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06-23-2017 , 02:26 PM
MP is random, dunno how he chipped up.
BB is very loose reg, he was 46/32 in 35 hands and was everywhere in every hand, preflop_equity_realiser.

Is it close vs fish?

Thought I was playing tight, but actually 40/29/26. potentailly pros for calling right?

PokerStars - 50/100 Ante 12 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 5,203
SB: 2,808
BB: 4,185 (VPIP: 20.39, PFR: 14.63, 3Bet Preflop: 3.03, Hands: 260)
UTG: 7,151 (VPIP: 40.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 5)
Hero (CO): 6,928

5 players post ante of 12, SB posts SB 50, BB posts BB 100

Pre Flop: (pot: 210) Hero has K T

UTG calls 100, Hero raises to 300, fold, fold, BB calls 200, UTG calls 200

Flop: (1,010, 3 players) T 2 3
BB checks, UTG checks, Hero bets 358, BB calls 358, UTG calls 358

Turn: (2,084, 3 players) J
BB checks, UTG checks, Hero bets 715, fold, UTG calls 715

River: (3,514, 2 players) Q
UTG checks, Hero bets 1,952, UTG raises to 5,766 and is all-in
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06-24-2017 , 12:39 PM
Turn looks too thin three ways.

Would use a smaller river size default in these spots. As played it's obviously close. I think I'd randomise my calling/folding here so that I don't do too much of either.
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06-24-2017 , 08:56 PM
Pre - I think I make it 400.

Flop is fine.

I think turn is a check behind, though betting doesn't seem terrible.

River - I dunno. Fold probably. Every time I have the 2nd nut flush on a 4 flush board, and I bet and get raised it always seems to be the nut flush.
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06-25-2017 , 08:10 AM
Make it 400 or even 500 pre. 300 is too low with the limp before you.

Everything is fine and it all depens if you think UTG is capable of bluffing there.
What Ax hands he is limping and calling utg?
Is he limping Ax off?

I tend mostly to call as this makes no sense
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06-25-2017 , 10:44 PM
how much has villian been jamming rivers and calling turns how chip aggro has villin been
is he calling alot or folding also what is his bounty
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06-26-2017 , 12:53 AM
Flop: 3 way i'd have bet the flop at least 500. We don't have a monster here and are happy to take it down.

Turn: I think a check for pot control is a reasonable play given that we have 2nd NFD and are now only on 2nd pair. I can't see AcX calling any flop unless X is a club or a T, in which case we are behind.

River - I think the question you should have asked is: What will he call me with? Even a fish can see a 4 flush. Maybe he calls with 9c, but I just don't see the guy calling any bet with less. If he actually has Ac, he is piling on you, or if he doesn't have it and wants to spew, he's putting you in a ridiculously hard spot. I think a checkback was your best option here, given that you rarely pick up that bet unless you call it off and pray he doesn't have the Ac.
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06-26-2017 , 03:13 AM
Thanks for feedback. As you can see I have 5 hands on him.
He had 30 or 40 bounty if it matters.

I had no issues playing m-way at that table but raising larger w/ that stacks unattarct people from calling more but rather make jamming wider more tempting which is worth considering imo.

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Originally Posted by sk8tavou
I tend mostly to call as this makes no sense
He can have some NFs, he could slow play some turned NFs.


Starpoker, when I bet small fish will still come to the river w/ pretty wide range.
I don't expect him to have a ton of small clubs but rather hero call me w/o spade.
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06-28-2017 , 10:04 PM
Like the iso vs fish pre but would go like 380, and I really like checking turn, especially 3 ways. River I prolly click call and hate myself for putting me in this spot.
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06-30-2017 , 04:02 AM
What about jamming the river? An overbet looks bluffy given his passive line and could get you a hero call with weaker clubs given your bounty is on offer.
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07-03-2017 , 04:58 PM
the 3bet is to small and the cbet so end up with worse flush more often cant fold river
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07-05-2017 , 04:55 AM
He thinks you will call off light because of the ko with a pair... and you're at the top of your range here and he can have worse flush and top pair.... so I'm leveling into a call ....
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07-08-2017 , 04:06 AM
Some serious button clicking going on (no offense)
Some weak players will limp/c better Kx (KJ,KQ,even AK), so pre is close, def choose bigger sizing.
Turn is way to thin.
Bet/f otr bro, this is always the nuts (esp since we have no reads), also don´t really like your sizing , but is w/e.
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07-08-2017 , 12:45 PM
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Originally Posted by OutPlayU27
Some serious button clicking going on (no offense)
Some weak players will limp/c better Kx (KJ,KQ,even AK), so pre is close, def choose bigger sizing.
Turn is way to thin.
Bet/f otr bro, this is always the nuts (esp since we have no reads), also don´t really like your sizing , but is w/e.
I think I agree on river.
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07-13-2017 , 05:44 AM
if you bet, was it a b/c or b/f plan against known V?
why the second guessing, forum clogging, trunk twisting second guessing, hey i said that already
game flow dude
you know it
if he has bruffs in range call him off, if you don't know then wtf are we betting the river for given Ac is substantial part of V c/c range ott
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07-13-2017 , 06:25 AM
Preach preacher
Yeah I have told I should've folded, wanted feedback on exp of dealing w/ fishes in such spots.

Vanessa shoulda also folded, she also failed. ))

Legit Ac2.
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07-13-2017 , 08:59 PM
Doug Polk made me laugh. After they showed that hand on ESPN, he grins at the camera and says "and it was Vanessa's birthday today too! Happy Birthday Vanessa!"

Nice present
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07-14-2017 , 05:48 PM
Check turn pretty much always here MW, and river is a fold. Laying too good a price vs. someone who is likely a fish and not thinking about range or bluffing enough in this spot and he's not shoving worse for value.

Also, river bet sizing is pretty meh. You're trying to get a fish to call w/ 9c or worse, and fish always see flushes more than anything. Not sure how you're doing that w/ that sizing.
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07-15-2017 , 03:20 AM
Turn is worth investigating, I think vs wide ranges (and utg flop c/c range is slightly capped at least) turn small bet is higher ev than check back.

Yes I've got some people tend to think small bet sizing is being underbluffed and larger sizing is more balanced. Others are more prone to apply theoretical approach. I think it's villain dependent.

But yeah if you don't agree on turn bet chances are you won't agree on river sizing either. ))
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07-18-2017 , 03:10 PM
high variance approach will lose some pots
is it threadworthy?
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07-27-2017 , 02:05 AM
turn is a great spot to check behind, sucks the times we get back raised and get pushed off our draw

wouldn't be suprised to see hands like Qc9x, QcKx and other combo draws backraising turn
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