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10R FT turn spot with JJ 10R FT turn spot with JJ

11-30-2013 , 05:10 PM
I have villain running 29/21/9.3 in 190 hands.
I have been pretty active. A couple of hands before villain opens CO I 3bet BU, villain c/minraises a 24Tdd board I call, villain bets a offsuit 8 I call and villain c/f to my jam on the river.
Flatter is a pretty active supernova also.
I think pre and flop are std. Thoughts on turn?
Thx in advance.

No Limit Holdem Tournament
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7 Players
Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight.com
$10+$1

Stacks:
Hero (UTG) (598k) 60bb
UTG+1 (283k) 28bb
MP (307k) 31bb
CO (94k) 9bb
BTN (679k) 68bb
SB (65k) 7bb
BB (509k) 51bb

Blinds: 5k/10k Ante 2k

Pre-Flop: (29k, 7 players) Hero is UTG J J
Hero raises to 20k, 3 folds, BTN calls 20k, 1 fold, BB raises to 65k, Hero calls 45k, BTN folds

Flop: 7 7 5 (170k, 2 players)
BB bets 90k, Hero calls 90k

Turn: 10 (350k, 2 players)
BB bets 180k, Hero???
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12-01-2013 , 01:32 AM
ffold. you don't beat any of his value hands and I doubt BB wants to barrel off with overs here given the stack sizes of you 2 compared to the rest of the table.

like pre and the flop call
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12-01-2013 , 12:34 PM
I'm not folding, too good of a squeeze spot against two active players. Also think he's betting turn smaller w/ QQ+ to induce spazz and there a tons of draws out there.

Plus he might be tilting due to just loosing a big pot against you.
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12-01-2013 , 02:20 PM
prob one of those fold and dont tell ever.

just would feel so bad due to icm getting it in here.

exploitable>ICM blowup
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12-01-2013 , 04:26 PM
Is a r/f somewhere advisable? I'm wondering how folks feel about 165k/f pre.
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12-01-2013 , 05:03 PM
140k/f pre
As played fold turn

Last edited by Inepsyrrr; 12-01-2013 at 05:09 PM.
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12-01-2013 , 06:57 PM
4b/f is pretty much worst option here imo
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12-01-2013 , 07:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Sir AA
4b/f is pretty much worst option here imo
U really think it's that bad? Don't know if I'm more confused about:

a) u thinking 4b/f is worst line, or
b) u thinking c/c on innocuous flop and c/f on innocuous turn is best line when deep with JJ and a healthy stack.
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12-01-2013 , 07:50 PM
villain's 5bet jamming range is imo wider > then barreling this runout esp with him being oop.

would 4b/c only with JJ here , and it's total icm suicide with these stackdepths - as well as I would much rather prefer some hand with blocking ability to 4b/f and JJ doesnt block too many things he would 5ball.

only good thing about 4b is that it puts icm **** on his face.
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12-02-2013 , 12:18 AM
Why is everyone talking about ICM here? Do we know we're ITM in fact?

I want to 4b/c pre with villain given history.
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12-02-2013 , 01:31 AM
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Originally Posted by bikram
Why is everyone talking about ICM here? Do we know we're ITM in fact?

I want to 4b/c pre with villain given history.
I was assuming the ft in the title meant final table, i'm guessing your thinking full tilt.
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12-02-2013 , 01:40 AM
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Originally Posted by MakingMoves
I was assuming the ft in the title meant final table, i'm guessing your thinking full tilt.
a little hidden yes, but I should have caught it, but you are prolly right given stack sizes and 7-handed. meh, would be good if op included the words final table or payouts in post.

I think I like flatting pre and folding turn then.
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