I observe a lot of games on pokerstars and see that there are many high stakes limit holdem specialists. I see some of these guys play 500/1000 limit but its almost always heads up or 3 handed. Then you have games like 50/100 and 100/200 limit that runs sometimes.

I would like to know if Phil Ivey or Daniel Negreanu decides to play in these games, would you say they would be the worst player assuming its a 6 max table? I think this might be silly for me to say this but the fact is i read that many of the high limit holdem specialists only play limit holdem, that pretty much makes me assume they will be better than an Ivey or Negreanu who plays all the games. Would this be a good assumption?


I did read that Daniel Negreanu use to play the 40/80 and 80/160 limit holdem games in the bellagio when he first started out but its pretty obvious those games has to be softer than any limit holdem game on stars 30/60+ easily. But does the fact that Daniel has a lot of limit holdem experience make him not the worst player at a 6 max high limit holdem table on stars?

I see guys like Stickman, brazzmonkey and a few others who seem to be all from Russia and it seems like the best limit holdem players live there for some reason. Is there a reason for this?

Excuse me if my post is idiotic. I know Ivey played on full tilt and played stakes like 1000/2000 limit holdem but i'm pretty sure those games had to be softer than a 100/200 limit holdem game on stars right? What about guys like Joe Cassidy or Liz Lieu. I know they are very good limit holdem players. Would they be easily the worst player at a 6 max limit holdem player against 5 winnings regulars on stars in a 6 max limit holdem game? I recalled Joe Cassidy sn was BUTCH ACIDY on stars and many referred him as one of the best limit holdem players from back then.

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he is best on the world!!!

No. I don't think it would really matter b/c people don't have much of an edge in limit holdem. There are a lot of very solid players that could probably hold their own in a 6 handed game. If you're talking about a 3 handed game, it's a very different story. There are solid 40-80 players that I would say could do well in much bigger games, and 200-400+ players that couldn't consisently beat a 40-80. It's limit holdem your edge in a 6 handed game just isn't all that much even if you're Ivey, Negreanu, or Joe Smith for that reason. IMO it's the easiest game to be "good" at, but a much smaller percentage of players are able to play their "good" for an entire session.

if they played they'd be the worst in a very tough lineup or the 2nd worst in a tough lineup

Pretty simple explanation. The other players are hungrier and have statistically analyzed the EV outcomes of soo many plays and situations. They understand their edge is thin, and more easily recognize the spots in hands where their edge exist. Comes down to playing soo many hands, having a high cognitive aptitude, and rigorous statistical analysis of their games. Most of the top tier pro's like Ivey and Daniel realize they can find juicer more lucrative games in casinos or at the WSOP without playing well trained on-line specialist.

This is at least 50% incorrect.

Would really like to know the line-up, where ivey is considered worst or second worst.

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Didn't Ivey mop the floor with HossTBF?

No,

Ivey went against the so-called best hu limit player and crushed him. Even that player amongst other greats say that he is an amazing player. Ivey didnt follow any of the guidelines that you stated above.

Are u talking about how he beat hoss over like a few thousand hands?

pretty sure a few HU specialists do regard him as a pretty good spot at the nosebleeds from what ive read.

Where is hasu when we need him?

Phil Ivey's HUHU strategy:

Step 1. Raise preflop in position
Step 2. C-bet the flop 100%
Step 3. ???????
Step 4. Profit

He stole that from me.

send him a copy of your book

Ivey had played the largest limit Holden games head up of all time 25k/50k if I am correct