I know what you mean chris. i didn't play on pokerstars but played zzeigler on full tilt and wondered why so many think he's so good. I found him easy to play. Not a knock on him, as his style is probably more profitable than some other players that i find (personally) to be very difficult to play. Like i remember finding him somewhat straight forward(not sure if this is what others think?, maybe just how he played me since i'm a maniac) so his style didn't tilt or confuse me. I felt pretty comfortable with all my decisions. But that being said he prolly was playing optimally against me as straight forward was prolly the right play. Same with Mike Schneider, i felt i could read him pretty well(again not a knock as he prolly playing me correctly) but i tilted less and made better decisions vs him as i knew where i was at more often.

I think when you play wild unpredictable players they are much more difficult to play personally, but they aren't playing the most optimally. Other players i found difficult to play were : chessnok, 16fcali, giftnthecurse, philuva, ballzdeepx, nosorog, misterbunny, doughnutz, fearthesadpuppy, tommyhanks to name some off the top of my head. I bet zzeigler and mike schneider prolly are playing more optimally than most of these guys but for me personally i'd much rather play an individual hand vs them. Only played zzeigler a little but this is how i remembered him. And out of that group i would say misterbunny and douhnutz gave me the most problems(but that might only be because they ran like golden gods lol)

Just because one is a pain in the ass to play against does not mean that they are not profitable to play against. Unless, of course, the stupid things they do send you spiraling into the abyss of raging monkey tilt.

Agreed! This is the 2nd time this week me and pokerbob have not only agreed, but haven't insulted each other. I like this pokerbob! But i know the other post was sarcasm, but i'll take it anyway!

that's not to say i think zzeigler is easy. we actually played pretty aggressively vs each other, i just happened to be able to react well to what he was doing. it happens with some lagtags while others i couldn't really get a grasp on at all like otter who just made me play really bad.

i think rashef has big leaks in his game from watching him play hands against other players but absolutely crushed me anytime we ever played for whatever reason. in that way he was easily the toughest player on ftp for me at least.

contrast these exploitive lagtags with someone like quarternion who just never ever makes a mistake. he may be "easy" to play against but there's like no way to get any edge against him. that makes him one of the best.

reshef is ****ing terrible.

Agreeing 3 for 3 with Bob. I mean i'm sure not terrible but i found him to play pretty badly, at least some of the time. I've heard some say he was real good. But i found him giving me way too much action when i had a hand. I had some of my biggest wins when he played! But like some of the other super lags maybe his play wasn't as bad as it looked. Meaning if i was running badly his giving me way too much action might have exploited me very nicely.

When i'm running good i love to see the misterbunnies, doughnutz, raschef's, nosorog's, and tommyhanks's of online poker. But when i'm running badly they are the last people i want to see!

it doesn't surprise me at all that you (and many others) think this. i used to think this but then i just started getting owned by him left and right. he just read me really well and basically played perfectly vs me. put in insane action with one pair and be good, yet just call down in a similar spot with a strong hand when its no good. he definitely seemed to be playing me differently than other players and i didn't have any good responses to what he was doing to me

there wasn't a single player that played the mid-high stakes ftp games that i'd consider really tough, even the big winners, so i don't give out this praise lightly.

Reshef improved a fair bit.

He played a lot better on FTP 2010 than he did stars pre '10.

I always said LOL reshef, but with less frequent animal spews would be a tough opponent.
And thats just what happened.

lol reshef is not good at all. hot runners gonna hot run.

I remember more than 1 conversation about how he was going to go bust in 2011...

I don't think he played well in 2010 at all.

oh i thought he was horrible on stars, but seemed to be a completely different player on ftp

I've come to learn he's not nearly as bad as I'd like to think.

Tpirahna

pretty sure bizzark's ptr is innacurate. says he's played 200k hands this year which just can't be right, but party poker is so frikin' dead that i can't imagine someone being able to log that many hands. also i play there everything 10/20+ and i have hardly seen him around all year, especially the las 6 months or so.

if you go to the top winners tab it says bizzark played 200k hands ths year, which is impossible cuz i'm online every day and i havent seen him around much at all this year, especially in the past 6 months or so. plus i mean he plays too weird to be the best don't you think?

maybe he just plays different hours a lot?
I dont think 200k hands is off for him at all tbh. Earlier in the year he played a ton and sat at close to every available 10/20 - 30/60 tbl that ran when he was on. But last months a lot less hours for sure.

When it comes to having the biggest edge on a 4-6 handed LHE table then i really dont think anyone could beat him