so theres a 6 handed 100/200 game, the "fish" who the game is built around decides he wants to go play 60, there are 3 seats open in the 60 game. the "fish" gets up and sits in the 60 and posts a blind, now the 100/200 game collectively decides that they dont want to play poker with eachother, not a single hand is dealt after the "fish" decides not to take his blind in the 100 game. they draw for seats in the 60...should the "fish" have to draw a card?

there might be two answers to this question, what is the rule, and also what is good for the game...im asking what should happen

this exact situation happened, and the "fish" was forced to draw a card, and after playing one full orbit in the 60 he was forced to get up and give his seat away, i got up from this game, missed a full round of free hands to call out the players in the 100/200 game for what was in my opinion, "bull****" that they were pulling and i was told i was out of line...was i?

I don't know if I'm quite qualified as I've never played this high (don't think it matters) but in my eyes, you are absolutely in the right. Without question.

Making the fish draw for a seat is absolutely retarded, what floorman enforced that? Sad times at commerce

jose, but i was much more angry with the table for insisting it than i was with him for enforcing it

This situation is an everyday occurrence with the vultures at the Commerce. I have never see the floor pull a player out of a game to pull a card. Ovb a player can leave a game whenever they want to sit in an open game. I can just see the fight over the seat and the people envoled.

Bottom line is that Commerce is the one of the most morally corrupt places on the planet. I feel like a bad person just associating myself with some of the people there. I believe that if the Devil walked into the Commerce on any given day he would be like...Wow you guys are ****ed up.

im not going to call anyone out publicly but the people involved might surprise you

Did the first player to leave the game inform the floor, or just get up and move his chips? (which I assume you aren't supposed to do even when moving limits?) I don't play live, but I do think it's probably not good to give him preferential treatment here just because he's a mark. So I'd say the ruling is fine, but I wouldn't be letting anyone know personally.

he simply picked up his chips and went to the 60 game, but of course he gave his chips to a chiprunner to color down after sitting down, if there is not a waitlist and only one game, it is not necessary to inform the floor of anything, and if there is, a chiprunner can manage it just the same as a floorman

my personal opinion of this particular situation is that it really shouldnt matter who it is, but the first player to get up, especially after posting a blind in the other game should have the seat, if the rest of the table suddenly decides that they dont want to play poker with eachother after he leaves but was perfectly happy playing in the game with him, now obviously this is a different situation if something else happens that changes the game and causes the people playing to not want to continue. thats just my opinion and could certainly be wrong, and apparently is contrary to the rule, its just what i feel is fair.

i posted this to get an idea on what others feel is fair and of course there are some arguments both ways and situations that could arise where my idea of, "fair" could be abused, but i think everything is situational and shouldnt necessarily always have a hard set rule to apply as opposed to using judgement

the ruling was honestly, probably correct(i dont actually know the rule) but it is my opinion that the players were out of line, in this particular instance, for asking for it. maybe think about a situation where calling someone on a string bet(while perfectly within the rules) is certainly very out of line

now i think this could be another interesting topic of discussion, are there any situations, where for the sake of the game, a bad, losing, regular player should get preferential treatment over others?

I think what is "correct" depends on the time elapsed, once someone who's left the game gets dealt cards before the 1/2 breaks then they aren't in the draw. You can't give the players in 1/2 eons to decide if they are or are not playing. If he hasn't taken a hand yet then he should have to draw.

Don't agree that "it is not necessary to inform the floor of anything." However, if he had already been dealt in when the others complained they wanted to cut for seats, he is already in the game and should not have to participate in the cut.

No player--bad, losing or otherwise--should get preferential treatment.

I think the floor made the correct ruling. I also think the 5 people who broke the 1/2 are scumbag nits. Every time I see something like this happen it makes me sick. I thought this kind of thing was as online-only phenomenon, but it clearly isn't.

Oh wow.

Fish didn't break the game, he deserves the seat. The other 5 that decided to end their game should have to draw, but not the fish.

This is true

I mean I will occasionally give my seat up for a fish for just this reason, to try to get the game better and because otherwise the fish would get impatient and go play some other game. But during the actual course of play i will generally not give the fish preferential treatment.. If a fish tries to angleshoot me, im going to call him out on it.