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Old 07-16-2012, 12:11 AM   #31
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Re: Limit Hold 'Em Vs. High Stakes Pros (Ivey)

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What cash games does Ivey even play anymore? I havent seen him in any nosebleed games the whole WSOP this year. He's not playing online anymore right?
Ivey = Raiseonce on Stars... he has been playing 1k/2k hu LHE + other games. He plays from Mexico when he isn't playing live tourneys.
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Old 07-16-2012, 06:41 AM   #32
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Re: Limit Hold 'Em Vs. High Stakes Pros (Ivey)

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As has already been mentioned, hu specialists sit by themselves doing nothing like 95% of the time. Since when do these guys require long sessions? Most log like 5k hands in a good month. I don't see why Ivey's sitting out would stop them unless he is buttoning, which I have never seen or heard of him doing. Also, he does play long sessions with KPR. And even though he sits out a lot, he will continue the match another time.
Just to expand a little, what the "sitting out tendency" i mentioned has to do with is that he has an insane ability to only continue playing when he feels he has a "mental edge" on his opponents. Which is why you generally will see him play short sessions when losing a lot and long sessions when winning a lot. (put simply)

I wont really go any further cause i am basically just passing on 2nd hand information at this point. Would be better if some of the guys involved could chime in.

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On the Hoss match, the point is that it is wrong to accuse players of cheating with no evidence. It's a pretty simple concept. There's a non-zero chance that you and I cheat too.
tbh i know nothing about the hoss vs PI match, but i have seen a few other PI matches and then read what some of these guys later write about these matches. This combined with some of the other shady stuff that has gone on online, and the pretty insane reward vs ratio you have at these stakes, and ofc the fact that PI did crazy well at the site he was a major part of, you just cant brush it off as 100% legit imo.
And yea, you never know with any of us, but the difference is that for us the chance of any of us being cheaters is pretty close to zero while in this case (by putting a lot of these suspicious-factors into the equation) it should be several orders of magnitude higher.
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Old 07-17-2012, 03:25 AM   #33
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Re: Limit Hold 'Em Vs. High Stakes Pros (Ivey)

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This might be a good thread for Hasu to chime in on, although I'm not sure if there's much more for him to add beyond the PokerStatic interview.
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Old 07-17-2012, 09:30 AM   #34
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Re: Limit Hold 'Em Vs. High Stakes Pros (Ivey)

http://www.pokerstatic.com/hot-seat/...me-kagomehasu/
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Old 07-20-2012, 03:36 PM   #35
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Re: Limit Hold 'Em Vs. High Stakes Pros (Ivey)

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From what i read/heard the reason few HU LHE experts dont want to play PI has little to do with his insane poker skills but more to do with his sitting out tendencies.

and imo there is definitely a non-zero chance his play on FTP wasnt legit. To say otherwise seems very naive. He also from what i know doesnt have impress results at all at any other sites online than just FTP
afaik they got all the action they wanted when they were losing. its a hu online poker game, anyone is free to quit any time they want. iveys choice is to quit when losing and keep playing when winning, if ppl believe they have an edge they should continue to play when losing.

and lol on the cheating. i cant recall a single accusation for the years and years of him/PA/whatever superstar crushing everyone at every game. having it 1.5 yrs after the fact from ppl who played not even close to the same stakes is hilarious
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