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Senor Choppy · 05-03-2005, 12:48 AM

I'd love to see a full rundown of his PT stats, like blind defense numbers, VPIP through various positions, etc.

Posting individual hands might also be enlightening.

DcifrThs · 05-03-2005, 01:28 AM

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I'd love to see a full rundown of his PT stats, like blind defense numbers, VPIP through various positions, etc.

Posting individual hands might also be enlightening.

vpip 30
pfr 17
ag 2.0
nf 21
fold sb- 70
fold bb- 30
fold bb HU- 24
WSD- 41
W$SD- 50
when fold turn- 3
when fold river- 3
c'r- 3
won $: $145k
win rate: 3bb/100

all i can say is jesus effing christ.

-Barron

DcifrThs · 05-03-2005, 01:34 AM

i want to analyze this stuff statistically.

i need help turning a column of text into separate columns.

furrnetly, for each player i have in excel column A reads:

PLAYERNAME~{{HP - somenumber - VPIP somenumber - Raise somenumber - nofold somenumber - ag somenumber

the remaining 3 columns are similarly edited so i have lots of data but no way to get JUST the #s...

i want to separate EVERYHTING in that cell into its own columns...so where i now have 1 column...i'd like to end up with like 12 or whatever excel can break those things into.

any ideas?
-Barron

Josh W · 05-03-2005, 02:01 AM

I'm no expert, but I think if you highlight the data, go up to "Data" then down to "Text to Columns", it should take you through it...

Good luck.

Josh

DcifrThs · 05-03-2005, 02:03 AM

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I'm no expert, but I think if you highlight the data, go up to "Data" then down to "Text to Columns", it should take you through it...

Good luck.

Josh

btw, if i get this set up i can do ALOT ALOT of useful sets of analyses...i can probably spend an entire day looking at the data and still only graze the surface.

-Barron

PokerMike · 05-03-2005, 02:08 AM

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ok, JV, this isn't even funny.

i just emailed a 2p2er about THIS EXACT SAME THING...

i have more hands on him. its obviously the same player.

i have him as a 145k winner at a rate of 3bb/100 over more hands than you have on him.

i asked my friend "how can this be humanly possible that this person plays almost 2X as many hands as i and has a higher win rate.?"

the response: "i certainly wish i knew."

-Barron

I emailed him too. I just can't get my head around these stats.

93k hands, 30/17/2.0, 144k earned, filtered for 7+ players. How?

J_V · 05-03-2005, 02:14 AM

I don't know about excel, but I'd like to know how many sigmas off the norm this is. The fact that he's from the poker capital of the world scares me also and the weird beats he put on me as if he could see the cards. Bet I'm not the first loser to say that

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DcifrThs · 05-03-2005, 02:23 AM

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I don't know about excel, but I'd like to know how many sigmas off the norm this is. The fact that he's from the poker capital of the world scares me also and the weird beats he put on me as if he could see the cards. Bet I'm not the first loser to say that

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you're not...the first person or a loser.

but we will find out a lot from the data if i can get the columns separated.

-Barron

DcifrThs · 05-03-2005, 02:24 AM

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ok, JV, this isn't even funny.

i just emailed a 2p2er about THIS EXACT SAME THING...

i have more hands on him. its obviously the same player.

i have him as a 145k winner at a rate of 3bb/100 over more hands than you have on him.

i asked my friend "how can this be humanly possible that this person plays almost 2X as many hands as i and has a higher win rate.?"

the response: "i certainly wish i knew."

-Barron

I emailed him too. I just can't get my head around these stats.

93k hands, 30/17/2.0, 144k earned, filtered for 7+ players. How?

i imported the data to excel...i'll be working on this till i get some answers so rest assued.

Barron

rigoletto · 05-03-2005, 02:30 AM

I think you'll find that he extracts a lot postflop when he is ahead and looses if not minimum then far less when he is behind. Also look for his winrate when raising the turn! I'm pretty sure it'll be something like 70%.

mmcd · 05-03-2005, 02:34 AM

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I think you'll find that he extracts a lot postflop when he is ahead or sucks out and loses if not minimum then far less when he is behind and doesn't suck out . Also look for his winrate when raising the turn! I'm pretty sure it'll be something like 70%.

FYP

James282 · 05-03-2005, 02:35 AM

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I think you'll find that he extracts a lot postflop when he is ahead and looses if not minimum then far less when he is behind. Also look for his winrate when raising the turn! I'm pretty sure it'll be something like 70%.

Are you kidding me? Dude will raise and three-bet the turn with middle pair. Probably the lightest three-betting regular in the game. But as I've said many times about this player, I'm sure he makes a lot of money against people who are unable or unwilling to properly adjust to him.
-James

PokerPrince · 05-03-2005, 02:37 AM

Mathematical anomaly more than likely. I'm on a downswing that would make most players puke. Cannot win, and I play very tight/solid poker. Just as a strong player can run atrociously bad for an extended period of time, a LAG/maniac can run exceptionally good for an extended period of time.

PokerPrince

rigoletto · 05-03-2005, 02:39 AM

It's funny how these discussions always seem to turn into an ego thing. I don't know if it has occured to anybody that this guy might be good, but just using another strategy than the standard 2+2 TAG. I think we should await Cypher's analysis an see if we can learn something!

DcifrThs · 05-03-2005, 02:39 AM

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Mathematical anomaly more than likely. I'm on a downswing that would make most players puke. Cannot win, and I play very tight/solid poker. Just as a strong player can run atrociously bad for an extended period of time, a LAG/maniac can run exceptionally good for an extended period of time.

PokerPrince

how many hands is your downswing?? i bet its like 1/10th of the time this guy has "run" this well.

-Barron