Ok, I see what you are saying. Good stuff.

Agree that what matters is your % of bluffs and % of value. Say the perfect GTO strategy is to bluff raise with 3 combos of A7. Bots will be polarized, so it effectively doesn't matter if instead you use one combo of A6, one combo of A7, one combo of A8. This seems to be what bots do -- they use a mixed strategy. I think it would still be technically unexploitable.

Why do bots do this? My theory is that it has to do with card removal. In the [0,1] game, you there is a clear pivot point where you are indifferent where you play a mixed strategy of X and Y, and everything higher you take action X and lower you do action Y.

But, in poker, say the pivot point is the hand A7. If villain has 77, he might know that we are never bluff raising since he blocks so many sevens. Hence the need to have a mixed strategy.

"Why do bots do this? "

You're right that it's because we could be exploited by an opponent that identifies our mistake here. I'll be right back with another link.

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/15...v-mdf-1634348/

Q1) pure strategies should be considered exploitive; mixing vs a non optimal opponent is both unnecessary from a deception view and less profitable than a pure strategy.

Q2) no. However, there will be hands within a mixed strategy that will take actions at 100% frequency, such as junk, which should be folded 100%.

shovel money in and then fold a showdownable hand on the river for one bet is my favourite strategy against MGM too

lol @ late 20s tho

no way is late twenties that bad of a read

a4 is the nuts. hell, Im pretty sure I used to value bet ak here.

yeh this is why you dont make a call on the river like this against mgm. you have to factor the likelyhood of opponent making silly bets (bluffing with the best hand/value betting with a bluffcatcher). Basically the eric factor. mgm makes plenty of those.

lol tony

Lol what? A4 is the stone cold nuts here

Hence the need to check call some strong stuff on the flop and turn sometimes.

christ a4 is def not even close to the nUts against my calling range otr there.

If you feel confident that MGM would take this line with 9T / 9J / TJ, then check/call on the turn and river is the best play in my opinion (I won't publicly say whether I think MGM would take this line with those hands as I don't want him to exploit me if he's reading these posts).

Also, I agree with whoever said it that check/raising this flop would be horrible, specifically against a player like MGM who is capable of making moves. If the cutoff is a weak/passive player, I think check/raising the flop is optimal.

You check/called every street. A4 should be the nuts here. You didn't check/raise the flop, so you likely have no pair on the flop. You didn't check/raise the turn, so you most likely don't have a straight. I'd value bet A4 against you on the river if you took this line. You shouldn't be surprised that MGM value bet river with this.

lol

ballin and don't want the V's be readin the thread and perpetratin! I feel u dawg

You should say the opposite of whatever you would do to confuse your opponent then next time actually tell the truth and getting into a 2p2 leveling war.