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Old 08-30-2010, 05:18 AM   #76
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most of the others are stereo
is this why i sometimes think sounds are in the wrong spot with my turtle beach x11's, due to lack of true surround sound?
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Old 08-30-2010, 05:35 AM   #77
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Am I the only one with Astro A40's?
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Old 08-30-2010, 06:31 AM   #78
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is this why i sometimes think sounds are in the wrong spot with my turtle beach x11's, due to lack of true surround sound?
For sure, you need the surround sound, once you play with them you wont know how you played with out them

Where i live they sell the non surround sound turtles and i tell my friends to stay away from them, for some reason they dont stock the surround sound ones
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Old 08-30-2010, 08:51 AM   #79
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the stereo turtle beaches are fine.
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Old 08-30-2010, 09:36 AM   #80
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is this why i sometimes think sounds are in the wrong spot with my turtle beach x11's, due to lack of true surround sound?
It shouldn't be in the wrong spot ever, if you use a high sensitivity and snap react to noises that might have an effect on how the sound is balanced into the left and right channels. Do you have an example of what you're talking about?

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Old 08-31-2010, 11:22 PM   #81
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well i just get confused on direction occasionally, but more specifically height. for example, sometimes i hear ppl behind me on stairs and i will hear it in the top part of my headset so i check the roof entrance and they are actually on the ground floor.
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Old 09-01-2010, 11:26 AM   #82
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Nothing can help with that as far as headphones/speakers, surround sound just covers the sound source locations in a 2D plane.

To reproduce what you're thinking of, you'd need front and rear speakers mounted at high/mid/low heights, and for the audio tracks to be engineered/produced for that format. Probably a long time away to see that happen and it probably never will.
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Nothing can help with that as far as headphones/speakers, surround sound just covers the sound source locations in a 2D plane.

To reproduce what you're thinking of, you'd need front and rear speakers mounted at high/mid/low heights, and for the audio tracks to be engineered/produced for that format. Probably a long time away to see that happen and it probably never will.
are you positive about this? I mean there are only two speakers in the headphones I have and they still manage to produce at least 2D plane surround sound. I honestly swear I can differentiate if theyre on the same level as me or higher etc. Or is this just me going crazy
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Old 09-01-2010, 02:49 PM   #84
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^^^Yeah I don't know about the mechanics of what's being discussed, but I can definitely hear if someone's below/above me.
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Old 09-01-2010, 03:02 PM   #85
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well i just get confused on direction occasionally, but more specifically height. for example, sometimes i hear ppl behind me on stairs and i will hear it in the top part of my headset so i check the roof entrance and they are actually on the ground floor.
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Nothing can help with that as far as headphones/speakers, surround sound just covers the sound source locations in a 2D plane.

To reproduce what you're thinking of, you'd need front and rear speakers mounted at high/mid/low heights, and for the audio tracks to be engineered/produced for that format. Probably a long time away to see that happen and it probably never will.
What sort of headset have you guys used? I'm not trying to argue because I know knowing about this stuff, but have you used a headset that comes with the modem looking thingy that runs a fiber optic cable to your xbox? I thought I remember reading somewhere about how that has something to do with getting true (or truer) surround sound? If I'm way off on this I wouldn't be shocked.
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Old 09-01-2010, 03:18 PM   #86
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are you positive about this? I mean there are only two speakers in the headphones I have and they still manage to produce at least 2D plane surround sound. I honestly swear I can differentiate if theyre on the same level as me or higher etc. Or is this just me going crazy
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^^^Yeah I don't know about the mechanics of what's being discussed, but I can definitely hear if someone's below/above me.
I'm not 100%, it could be some kind of programming trickery to simulate that, but it's probably your brain deducing where the sound is coming from based on visual cues.

The left and right speakers (plus mid/rear etc, depending on how many surround channels you're using) differentiate the sounds that originate in a 2D plane parallel to the ground, but what differentiates the origin of sound in the 2D plane that is perpendicular to the ground? Nothing, because surround setups don't have a high and low speaker, which would be the perpendicular plane equivalent of the left and right/front and rear speakers that cover the parallel plane. Also, the parallel plane is way more important than perpendicular plane.

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What sort of headset have you guys used? I'm not trying to argue because I know knowing about this stuff, but have you used a headset that comes with the modem looking thingy that runs a fiber optic cable to your xbox? I thought I remember reading somewhere about how that has something to do with getting true (or truer) surround sound? If I'm way off on this I wouldn't be shocked.
probably a toslink cable, shouldn't matter for my setup running HDMI from the 360 into the receiver and then using the headphone out on the receiver

I've used the TB X1's and Senn. HD595's but mostly just use floorstanding speakers bc I'm lazy

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Old 09-01-2010, 06:48 PM   #87
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I don't really know anything about good gaming headsets, but I just saw these and they seem cheap so I figured I'd give em a try. I'm just wondering if I can sound whore with them before I buy em?

http://www.eforcity.com/268837.html

There is a free shipping code at eforcity for today so they would only be $8.99 (LABRFS5)

Somebody check it out a let me know. Thanks.
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Old 09-01-2010, 10:50 PM   #88
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If they are worth a ****, it's a hell of deal. I'm more from the get-what-you-pay-for camp, so I'd move on.

Depends on your requirements, of course.
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Old 09-01-2010, 11:14 PM   #89
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yeah, I'm prolly just gonna pass and get some turtle beaches once microsoft sends my xbox back (I dont think those would have played game audio through the headset anyway, after reading a few reviews). Thanks for the reply.
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Old 09-02-2010, 05:23 AM   #90
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Nothing can help with that as far as headphones/speakers, surround sound just covers the sound source locations in a 2D plane.

To reproduce what you're thinking of, you'd need front and rear speakers mounted at high/mid/low heights, and for the audio tracks to be engineered/produced for that format. Probably a long time away to see that happen and it probably never will.
Have you actually used surround sound head sets? this is all bs^^
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