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Old 07-26-2012, 08:52 AM   #31
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Re: PLO from the bottom up

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ya do it Like half the people posting in this thread are in it lol, and we got our own PGC threads going too.

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Hey,

Sorry, must have missed this post. I usually try and respond to everything as you have bothered to post here.

My skype is: chrispy_1979

If i am right, most of you are aussies and kiwi's.....might make timing difficult for me, but will try and log in as often as possible. Any schedule drawn up or is it just a see who is on and open for a chat?

I doubt I can add a lot at the moment and still only playing PLO2 at the moment because of bankroll. As soon as I reach $90 I am doing a one BI shot at PLO5. Got crushed Boat vs Quads 10 hands in last time. Got to be able to do better than that next time! lol.
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Old 07-26-2012, 06:58 PM   #32
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Re: PLO from the bottom up

Well this just ruined my session.

Pre flop - was a little loose, but was playing to hit a set.

Flop - hit the set, but the straight is on the board. Wanted to lead out into the board and see what happened. Would be happy to take it down there to be honest. If not, I am playing for a boat or the ace for a split pot.

Turn - Another hand gets there. Agonised on the call. Should have folded it there really. Any thoughts?

River - Another hand gets there and I don't fill up. Gotta close it down and fold to the raise. Hoped to SD cheap.

Grateful for your thoughts


PokerStars - $0.02 PL Hi (6 max) - Omaha - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

CO: $2.00
BTN: $3.26
SB: $3.98
Hero (BB): $3.00
UTG: $2.20

SB posts SB $0.01, Hero posts BB $0.02

Pre Flop: ($0.03) Hero has K 6 Q K

UTG raises to $0.06, fold, BTN calls $0.06, SB calls $0.05, Hero calls $0.04

Flop: ($0.24, 4 players) T J K
SB checks, Hero bets $0.23, fold, BTN calls $0.23, SB calls $0.23

Turn: ($0.93, 3 players) 7
SB bets $0.90, Hero calls $0.90, BTN calls $0.90

River: ($3.63, 3 players) 8
SB checks, Hero checks, BTN bets $2.07 and is all-in, fold

fold

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Old 07-26-2012, 09:15 PM   #33
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Re: PLO from the bottom up

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Hey,

Sorry, must have missed this post. I usually try and respond to everything as you have bothered to post here.

My skype is: chrispy_1979

If i am right, most of you are aussies and kiwi's.....might make timing difficult for me, but will try and log in as often as possible. Any schedule drawn up or is it just a see who is on and open for a chat?

I doubt I can add a lot at the moment and still only playing PLO2 at the moment because of bankroll. As soon as I reach $90 I am doing a one BI shot at PLO5. Got crushed Boat vs Quads 10 hands in last time. Got to be able to do better than that next time! lol.
Just one Aussie and the rest US/Canada at at the moment. We're basically just going with a post a hand and if someone is on they'll reply or see it later. We're all in the micros for PLO so no worries on that.

Might be looking to get some scheduled seat sessions or hand talks going at some point though.

Will add you now
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Old 07-27-2012, 05:01 PM   #34
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Re: PLO from the bottom up

I just don't get it, I seem to be getting worse.

I am leaking money from just about everywhere. I raise the flop, hit nothing on a wet board and have to fold to aggression.

Maybe I am just on a run bad, but nothing holds......example

PokerStars - $0.02 PL Hi (6 max) - Omaha - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

UTG: $3.31
Hero (CO): $3.00
BTN: $1.50
SB: $5.60
BB: $0.58

SB posts SB $0.01, BB posts BB $0.02

Pre Flop: ($0.03) Hero has T A T 6

fold, Hero calls $0.02, fold, SB raises to $0.08, BB calls $0.06, Hero calls $0.06

Flop: ($0.24, 3 players) 8 T 5
SB bets $0.20, BB calls $0.20, Hero raises to $1.03, SB calls $0.83, BB calls $0.30 and is all-in

Turn: ($2.80, 3 players) 4
SB checks, Hero bets $1.89 and is all-in, SB calls $1.89

River: ($6.58, 3 players) 7

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Old 07-27-2012, 10:25 PM   #35
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Re: PLO from the bottom up

First- Raise from CO there unless you expect a 3bet often from BTN.

Rest is wp

he hit one of his 8 outs, unlucky

looks like runbad, welcome to good ol PLO
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Old 07-28-2012, 05:53 AM   #36
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Re: PLO from the bottom up

Totally demoralised. Even when I am getting it in ahead, I am getting out drawn. I promised myself this thread would not turn into "woe me" and badbeats, but have to vent it somewhere.

This hand is on another computer so cannot access it, but essentially it was flop a set of 9's fill up to a boat when a 7 pairs.....all in. I have the nut boat, but of course, quads. Thanks for playing.

I even played a bit of NLHE last night to try and clear my head. Flop a boat and get it all in the middle....whats that, the only way you can win is runner runner queens.....oh yeah, here you go. Now please go and make a sacrifice to the poker gods.

Anyhow, the figures are like this

Total Hands 4207
Bank Roll $68.02
Total Profit / Loss -$11.98

Bring on August and some run good
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Old 07-28-2012, 07:51 AM   #37
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Re: PLO from the bottom up

ill pray to the poker gods for you

August will be good
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Old 07-28-2012, 08:06 AM   #38
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Re: PLO from the bottom up

4000 hands in a high variance game means ****. If you doubt yourself over that sample maybe it's not for you?
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Old 07-28-2012, 09:34 AM   #39
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Re: PLO from the bottom up

I am not sure I doubt myself, more that I am getting stung hitting the top of their range. If I folded every boat because I was scared of quads I'd get nowhere.
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Old 07-28-2012, 01:30 PM   #40
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Re: PLO from the bottom up

Happy days....just found a £10.00 deposit bonus I did not know about.

Moved to two tables and making more notes. Feel much more comfortable with it. Possibly I was guilty of auto piloting before I even really knew the game.

At least I have plugged the leak for now.
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Old 07-29-2012, 12:41 PM   #41
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Re: PLO from the bottom up

Good session this afternoon. Even though I only made a dollar, I was almost $3 down at one point, so it feels like a result.

This was the first hand of the day. I dont think the hand is a raising hand really. I am only really looking to spike a king or a flush. I spike the king, but the flush draw is out there. I know I am the stastical dog here, but should I be calling the turn and the shoving on a brick? From a psychological point of view is it easier for villan to find the fold button with a brick on the turn? Possibly if we were deeper it might be. Not sure. Would be grateful for some thoughts.

I also find it is only ever villan who gets it in and hits in these positions. Grrrrr.

PokerStars - $0.02 PL Hi (6 max) - Omaha - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

Hero (BB): $3.00
UTG: $5.04
MP: $0.74
CO: $2.43
BTN: $2.29
SB: $0.79

SB posts SB $0.01, Hero posts BB $0.02

Pre Flop: ($0.03) Hero has 2 K 7 K

fold, MP raises to $0.07, fold, fold, fold, Hero calls $0.05

Flop: ($0.15, 2 players) K T 2
Hero bets $0.10, MP raises to $0.44, Hero raises to $1.46, MP calls $0.23 and is all-in

Turn: ($1.49, 2 players) 4

River: ($1.49, 2 players) Q

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Old 07-29-2012, 12:42 PM   #42
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Re: PLO from the bottom up

Talking about me never hitting

PokerStars - $0.02 PL Hi (6 max) - Omaha - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

CO: $2.46
BTN: $0.18
SB: $1.41
Hero (BB): $3.06
UTG: $3.03
MP: $1.54

SB posts SB $0.01, Hero posts BB $0.02

Pre Flop: ($0.03) Hero has 4 Q J A

fold, fold, CO calls $0.02, fold, SB calls $0.01, Hero raises to $0.04, CO calls $0.02, SB calls $0.02

Flop: ($0.12, 3 players) 9 T 8
SB checks, Hero bets $0.06, CO calls $0.06, fold

Turn: ($0.24, 2 players) 6
Hero bets $0.11, CO calls $0.11

River: ($0.46, 2 players) 9
Hero checks, CO bets $0.26, Hero calls $0.26

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This is what makes me play passive as villan always always always hits
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Old 07-29-2012, 01:47 PM   #43
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Re: PLO from the bottom up

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Talking about me never hitting

PokerStars - $0.02 PL Hi (6 max) - Omaha - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

CO: $2.46
BTN: $0.18
SB: $1.41
Hero (BB): $3.06
UTG: $3.03
MP: $1.54

SB posts SB $0.01, Hero posts BB $0.02

Pre Flop: ($0.03) Hero has 4 Q J A

fold, fold, CO calls $0.02, fold, SB calls $0.01, Hero raises to $0.04, CO calls $0.02, SB calls $0.02

Flop: ($0.12, 3 players) 9 T 8
SB checks, Hero bets $0.06, CO calls $0.06, fold

Turn: ($0.24, 2 players) 6
Hero bets $0.11, CO calls $0.11

River: ($0.46, 2 players) 9
Hero checks, CO bets $0.26, Hero calls $0.26

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This is what makes me play passive as villan always always always hits
Against a passive villain I like c/f (If he's tight) or b/f of $.20 (If he's loose)

Cheers!
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Old 07-29-2012, 05:47 PM   #44
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Re: PLO from the bottom up

In the interests of full disclosure, I did get my fair share of luck here

PokerStars - $0.02 PL Hi (6 max) - Omaha - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

CO: $2.00
BTN: $0.80
SB: $5.30
Hero (BB): $3.00
UTG: $3.80
MP: $1.35

SB posts SB $0.01, Hero posts BB $0.02

Pre Flop: ($0.03) Hero has 9 A A Q

UTG calls $0.02, fold, CO calls $0.02, BTN raises to $0.10, SB calls $0.09, Hero calls $0.08, fold, CO calls $0.08

Flop: ($0.42, 4 players) 9 9 3
SB checks, Hero bets $0.30, fold, fold, SB calls $0.30

Turn: ($1.02, 2 players) 7
SB checks, Hero bets $0.73, SB raises to $3.17, Hero calls $1.87 and is all-in

River: ($6.22, 2 players) A

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Old 07-29-2012, 06:34 PM   #45
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Re: PLO from the bottom up

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This was the first hand of the day. I dont think the hand is a raising hand really. I am only really looking to spike a king or a flush. I spike the king, but the flush draw is out there. I know I am the stastical dog here, but should I be calling the turn and the shoving on a brick? From a psychological point of view is it easier for villan to find the fold button with a brick on the turn? Possibly if we were deeper it might be. Not sure. Would be grateful for some thoughts.

I also find it is only ever villan who gets it in and hits in these positions. Grrrrr.

PokerStars - $0.02 PL Hi (6 max) - Omaha - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

Hero (BB): $3.00
UTG: $5.04
MP: $0.74
CO: $2.43
BTN: $2.29
SB: $0.79

SB posts SB $0.01, Hero posts BB $0.02

Pre Flop: ($0.03) Hero has 2 K 7 K

fold, MP raises to $0.07, fold, fold, fold, Hero calls $0.05

Flop: ($0.15, 2 players) K T 2
Hero bets $0.10, MP raises to $0.44, Hero raises to $1.46, MP calls $0.23 and is all-in

Turn: ($1.49, 2 players) 4

River: ($1.49, 2 players) Q

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Villain had a massive hand here. Very likely they're going to hit something with it. What do you mean about calling the turn? You have to get it in on this flop all day with top set if you can. Doesn't really matter what happens after and it simplifies your decisions to scary turns. It sucks that you're holding a blocker to full house outs but still have to get it in - many times you will see a set or top 2 here as well. Be honest here...if a diamond or straight card hits were you going to check/fold top set? I'm guessing the answer is you'll probably check/call.

Villain won't fold turn, the hand is too big to fold and if you're deeper then there's greater implied odds so even less chance they will fold. It's just one of those standard PLO hands which play themselves out where you both have massive hands and want to get it in on the flop.
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