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Old 07-23-2012, 06:54 PM   #16
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Re: PLO from the bottom up

Another session and this time I mixed in some Zoom. Was not a great fan of Zoom with NLHE, so not sure why I thought it would be any different with PLO.


Session Hands 400
Total Hands 1412
Bank Roll $88.57
Profit / Loss $8.57

I'll post two hands. The first is one where I just wasn't sure what to do and other is a random hand.

Difficult hand

I ended up calling with 2nd nuts and of course it was not good enough. The flush comes in, but I did not feel he was chasing that. I put him on two pair or a split pot. It felt like it would be too nitty not to call.

PokerStars - $0.02 PL Hi (6 max) - Omaha - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

BTN: $1.29
SB: $2.45
BB: $4.17
Hero (UTG): $3.00
CO: $2.53

SB posts SB $0.01, BB posts BB $0.02

Pre Flop: ($0.03) Hero has J 8 9 Q

Hero calls $0.02, fold, fold, SB calls $0.01, BB raises to $0.06, Hero calls $0.04, SB calls $0.04

Flop: ($0.18, 3 players) 9 K 6
SB bets $0.08, BB calls $0.08, Hero calls $0.08

Turn: ($0.42, 3 players) A
SB checks, BB checks, Hero checks

River: ($0.42, 3 players) T
SB checks, BB bets $0.41, Hero calls $0.41, fold

Spoiler:



Random hand

PokerStars - $0.02 PL Hi (6 max) - Omaha - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

BTN: $6.72
SB: $3.08
Hero (BB): $3.23
UTG: $2.41
CO: $0.73

SB posts SB $0.01, Hero posts BB $0.02

Pre Flop: ($0.03) Hero has K 7 J Q

fold, fold, fold, SB calls $0.01, Hero checks

Flop: ($0.04, 2 players) 2 5 8
SB checks, Hero checks

Turn: ($0.04, 2 players) 3
SB checks, Hero checks

River: ($0.04, 2 players) Q
SB bets $0.04, fold

Spoiler:
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Old 07-24-2012, 01:05 PM   #17
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Re: PLO from the bottom up

I feel a new goal coming up at the start of August.....no playing zoom.

Mixed game of zoom and 6 max to post a small loss....all the loss on zoom and all the profit on 6max.

Session Hands 221
Total Hands 1636
Bank Roll $88.28
Sesson Profit / Loss $0.29
Profit / Loss $8.28

Is my fold too nitty here? The villan plays it strong with a pot bet on the flop and he made it just a bit too quick for my liking. Only a small sample of 7 hands and no real reads other than he was lining up to be fairly aggressive. Looking back on it I think it was worth seeing the turn and the re-evaluate.

PokerStars - $0.02 PL Hi (6 max) - Omaha - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

CO: $2.41
BTN: $1.67
Hero (SB): $3.42
BB: $1.76
UTG: $0.96
MP: $1.00

Hero posts SB $0.01, BB posts BB $0.02

Pre Flop: ($0.03) Hero has 5 A K K

UTG calls $0.02, MP raises to $0.06, fold, fold, Hero calls $0.05, fold, UTG calls $0.04

Flop: ($0.20, 3 players) Q Q 7
Hero checks, UTG bets $0.19, fold, fold

Spoiler:


Another hand where possibly I was being too nitty. More happy with my fold on this one that the other above. I am losing to a flush and the boat.

PokerStars - $0.02 PL Hi (6 max) - Omaha - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

SB: $2.34
BB: $1.72
Hero (UTG): $3.24
CO: $2.13
BTN: $1.88

SB posts SB $0.01, BB posts BB $0.02

Pre Flop: ($0.03) Hero has J 7 A A

Hero calls $0.02, fold, BTN calls $0.02, fold, BB checks

Flop: ($0.07, 3 players) K J T
BB checks, Hero checks, BTN bets $0.07, fold, Hero calls $0.07

Turn: ($0.21, 2 players) 9
Hero checks, BTN checks

River: ($0.21, 2 players) J
Hero checks, BTN bets $0.20

fold

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Old 07-24-2012, 02:31 PM   #18
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Re: PLO from the bottom up

Another frustrating session.

Session Hands 158
Total Hands 1879
Bank Roll $88.76
Sesson Profit / Loss $0.21
Profit / Loss $8.76

No spots whatsoever, so I'll just post a random hand. A standard fold I hope.

PokerStars - $0.02 PL Hi (6 max) - Omaha - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

UTG: $3.07
MP: $1.98
CO: $1.20
Hero (BTN): $3.48
SB: $1.56
BB: $1.11

SB posts SB $0.01, BB posts BB $0.02

Pre Flop: ($0.03) Hero has 8 A K 2

UTG raises to $0.04, MP calls $0.04, fold, fold, SB raises to $0.10, BB calls $0.08, UTG calls $0.06, fold

Flop: ($0.34, 3 players) K 4 9
SB bets $0.30, fold, UTG calls $0.30

Turn: ($0.94, 2 players) 3
SB bets $0.91, fold

Spoiler:
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Old 07-24-2012, 05:05 PM   #19
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Re: PLO from the bottom up

Was this an uber bad move?

PokerStars - $0.02 PL Hi (6 max) - Omaha - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

MP: $1.82
CO: $6.81
BTN: $2.52
Hero (SB): $3.00
BB: $2.74
UTG: $0.55

Hero posts SB $0.01, BB posts BB $0.02

Pre Flop: ($0.03) Hero has A 2 A Q

fold, MP raises to $0.07, CO calls $0.07, fold, Hero calls $0.06, BB raises to $0.35, MP raises to $1.19, CO calls $1.12, Hero raises to $2.03, BB raises to $2.74 and is all-in, MP calls $0.63 and is all-in, CO calls $1.55, Hero calls $0.71

Flop: ($10.04, 4 players) 8 5 9
Hero bets $0.26 and is all-in, CO calls $0.26

Turn: ($10.56, 4 players) Q

River: ($10.56, 4 players) 4

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Old 07-24-2012, 06:42 PM   #20
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Re: PLO from the bottom up

Oh hello tilt monkey......not seen you for a while!

Losing two hands in quick succession with the nut boat to quads!!!

Bank roll $79.22
Total Hands 2176
Total Profit / Loss $0.78

Feel like a tool.....welcome to PLO I hear you all say!
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Old 07-25-2012, 10:00 AM   #21
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Re: PLO from the bottom up

sucks to face quads let alone twice in a session. dont let it affect your game, sometime you will be on the other end
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Old 07-25-2012, 02:45 PM   #22
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Re: PLO from the bottom up

Another session with no real spots. Any time I had the nuts I got no action or they soul read and folded.

Bank roll $79.31
Total Hands 2569
Session Hands 393
Total Profit / Loss -$0.69
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Old 07-25-2012, 02:57 PM   #23
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Re: PLO from the bottom up

We've got a PLO study group on skype! (PLO5-PLO10 players atm) pm me your skype
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Old 07-25-2012, 07:19 PM   #24
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Re: PLO from the bottom up

Alert....poker brag coming up

PokerStars - $0.02 PL Hi (6 max) - Omaha - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

Hero (BTN): $3.00
SB: $8.61
BB: $1.60
UTG: $1.60
CO: $1.58

SB posts SB $0.01, BB posts BB $0.02, UTG posts DB $0.02

Pre Flop: ($0.05) Hero has Q 4 J A

UTG checks, fold, Hero calls $0.02, SB raises to $0.06, fold, UTG calls $0.04, Hero calls $0.04

Flop: ($0.20, 3 players) 4 4 4
SB bets $0.19, UTG raises to $0.76, Hero calls $0.76, fold

Turn: ($1.91, 2 players) A
UTG bets $0.78 and is all-in, Hero calls $0.78

River: ($3.47, 2 players) 5

Spoiler:



PokerStars - $0.02 PL Hi (6 max) - Omaha - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

MP: $8.16
CO: $4.48
Hero (BTN): $3.54
SB: $4.43
BB: $2.45
UTG: $4.94

SB posts SB $0.01, BB posts BB $0.02

Pre Flop: ($0.03) Hero has T A J T

fold, fold, fold, Hero calls $0.02, SB calls $0.01, BB checks

Flop: ($0.06, 3 players) 2 T K
SB checks, BB bets $0.02, Hero raises to $0.12, fold, BB calls $0.10

Turn: ($0.30, 2 players) 6
BB bets $0.20, Hero calls $0.20

River: ($0.70, 2 players) Q
BB checks, Hero bets $0.68, BB calls $0.68

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Happy days. Saved my session to end up $0.72 down.....yes, that is how bad I was running!
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Old 07-25-2012, 07:23 PM   #25
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Re: PLO from the bottom up

An interesting hand that I would love some feeback on.

PokerStars - $0.02 PL Hi (6 max) - Omaha - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

BTN: $0.66
Hero (SB): $3.00
BB: $1.08
UTG: $1.59
CO: $6.08

Hero posts SB $0.01, BB posts BB $0.02

Pre Flop: ($0.03) Hero has 8 9 4 Q

UTG calls $0.02, CO calls $0.02, fold, Hero calls $0.01, BB checks

Flop: ($0.08, 4 players) 4 8 Q
Hero bets $0.06, fold, UTG calls $0.06, fold

Turn: ($0.20, 2 players) 9
Hero bets $0.14, UTG raises to $0.61, Hero calls $0.47

River: ($1.42, 2 players) 3
Hero checks, UTG bets $0.70, fold

Spoiler:


Shame there is no prize for 4 pairs! lol. I guess I had to call the turn raise and although the river is a brick, I put him on a set. The missed flush draw was also there and fair play if he went three streets on that.

Your thoughts?
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Old 07-25-2012, 07:44 PM   #26
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Re: PLO from the bottom up

Hey cracked, I too am trying to grind low limit omaha high. My bankroll is only 8 bucks tho and the lowest stakes I can find are 2 cent 4 cent so I can go broke easily with only 2 buy-ins. It seems like some of your posted hands you hit your flop in regards to your hand, but you have to think about what other players could have flopped too. Fear the nuts. Look forward to hear on how your doing and maybe we can compete if I get my roll up soon. Also, I think omaha high is a great game to focus on(game of the future?). I recently played 1/2 at the casino and it was softer then 2 cent 4 cent. No joke. I think with your bankroll you should be playing a least 2 tables. You have a general understanding of basic strategy and you would have to get really unlucky to go broke. Alas, JMHO. Gl at the tables
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Old 07-25-2012, 09:29 PM   #27
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Re: PLO from the bottom up

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Originally Posted by CrackedandBroken View Post
I feel a new goal coming up at the start of August.....no playing zoom.

Mixed game of zoom and 6 max to post a small loss....all the loss on zoom and all the profit on 6max.

Session Hands 221
Total Hands 1636
Bank Roll $88.28
Sesson Profit / Loss $0.29
Profit / Loss $8.28

Is my fold too nitty here? The villan plays it strong with a pot bet on the flop and he made it just a bit too quick for my liking. Only a small sample of 7 hands and no real reads other than he was lining up to be fairly aggressive. Looking back on it I think it was worth seeing the turn and the re-evaluate.

PokerStars - $0.02 PL Hi (6 max) - Omaha - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

CO: $2.41
BTN: $1.67
Hero (SB): $3.42
BB: $1.76
UTG: $0.96
MP: $1.00

Hero posts SB $0.01, BB posts BB $0.02

Pre Flop: ($0.03) Hero has 5 A K K

UTG calls $0.02, MP raises to $0.06, fold, fold, Hero calls $0.05, fold, UTG calls $0.04

Flop: ($0.20, 3 players) Q Q 7
Hero checks, UTG bets $0.19, fold, fold

Spoiler:


Another hand where possibly I was being too nitty. More happy with my fold on this one that the other above. I am losing to a flush and the boat.

PokerStars - $0.02 PL Hi (6 max) - Omaha - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

SB: $2.34
BB: $1.72
Hero (UTG): $3.24
CO: $2.13
BTN: $1.88

SB posts SB $0.01, BB posts BB $0.02

Pre Flop: ($0.03) Hero has J 7 A A

Hero calls $0.02, fold, BTN calls $0.02, fold, BB checks

Flop: ($0.07, 3 players) K J T
BB checks, Hero checks, BTN bets $0.07, fold, Hero calls $0.07

Turn: ($0.21, 2 players) 9
Hero checks, BTN checks

River: ($0.21, 2 players) J
Hero checks, BTN bets $0.20

fold

Spoiler:
i noticed in alot of your hh's you just seem to flat pre (from utg or what ever) even with double suited aces or decent run downs. Your better off 3betting them and raisin pre. Raise your hands pre more often, your playing way to passive pre.
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Old 07-26-2012, 03:08 AM   #28
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Re: PLO from the bottom up

Hey 7ylerdurd3n. Thanks for your input. Totally agree, I think I mentioned above I am finding it difficult to work out what is a raising hand when out of position. I think my play adjusts to the table as well. If they play agro, then I play more passive knowing that when I hit my hand they will do the betting. If its nitty, I'll open up more. Still learning the ropes and need to get a book asap. Gotta start finding that raise button. What do you think the gap between vpip and pfr should be?
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Old 07-26-2012, 08:24 AM   #29
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Hey cracked, I too am trying to grind low limit omaha high. My bankroll is only 8 bucks tho and the lowest stakes I can find are 2 cent 4 cent so I can go broke easily with only 2 buy-ins. It seems like some of your posted hands you hit your flop in regards to your hand, but you have to think about what other players could have flopped too. Fear the nuts. Look forward to hear on how your doing and maybe we can compete if I get my roll up soon. Also, I think omaha high is a great game to focus on(game of the future?). I recently played 1/2 at the casino and it was softer then 2 cent 4 cent. No joke. I think with your bankroll you should be playing a least 2 tables. You have a general understanding of basic strategy and you would have to get really unlucky to go broke. Alas, JMHO. Gl at the tables
Thanks for stopping by. Do you have your own PG thread?

If you can afford it, I would increase your bankroll. PLO requires an even bigger bankroll that NLHE does. It is much more swingy as you have seen from my results.

I am playing 3 - 4 tables now. Finding 3 is optimum unless one table is slow. I am also table selecting much more now.

I am defo up for some competition / prop bets. Let me know what you have in mind.

GL and may the run good be with you.
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Old 07-26-2012, 08:36 AM   #30
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Re: PLO from the bottom up

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We've got a PLO study group on skype! (PLO5-PLO10 players atm) pm me your skype
ya do it Like half the people posting in this thread are in it lol, and we got our own PGC threads going too.

Come join the fun
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