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Old 07-20-2012, 10:04 PM   #1
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My goals to live off poker.

Hi Guys.

I'm fairly new to poker, got interested in it after playing one night for change with mates. 19 from Australia, currently unemployed until I find work or university starts up next year. I previously studied engineering as I was pressured by my family to do so, but my hatred for trigonometry got the better of me and I quit after a year. I'm enrolled to study an Applied Mathematics and Statistics course next year as that is where my true interest in the field of mathematics lies and have decided that between now and next year I want to try my hand at Poker as a source of income.

My goal is to start with $50 on Pokerstars, build a roll by beating the micros so that I can eventually grind 20 hours a week playing uNL zoom earning at least $300 or $15/hour, which is about average for a casual job where I live. I have read quite a bit online about general theory and 'The theory of Poker' by David Sklansky and feel that I'm getting a handle on the core concepts of the game and so far my results have been good.

I have calculated that I can do this in either of the following ways:
10NL, 4 table Zoom, 1000 hands/hour, 7.5 BB/100.
25NL, 4 table Zoom, 750 hands/hour, 4 BB/100.

These are my goals and I hope they are realistic, but time will tell.

So far, my $50 has become $70.23 in 3 days over ~5000 hands, but I have only started logging the last ~1500 hand sessions with PT3. I plan to update this thread every ~5000 hands as my goal is to play that many hands everyday for about a week. For those wondering my stats from the logged sessions were: 20.5/18.8 and AF of 3.85. A managed a BB/100 for that single session of 7.97, with a huge cooler and stupid play right at the end...

PokerStars - $0.02 NL ZOOM - Holdem - 9 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

BTN: $1.31
SB: $2.02
BB: $2.12
UTG: $2.86
UTG+1: $0.82
MP: $0.55
Hero (MP+1): $2.79
LP: $4.86
CO: $0.79

SB posts SB $0.01, BB posts BB $0.02

Pre Flop: ($0.03) Hero has A A

UTG calls $0.02, fold, fold, Hero raises to $0.08, fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, UTG calls $0.06

Flop: ($0.19, 2 players) 6 8 3
UTG bets $0.02, Hero raises to $0.13, UTG calls $0.11

Turn: ($0.45, 2 players) 7
UTG checks, Hero bets $0.21, UTG raises to $0.42, Hero raises to $1.22, UTG raises to $2.02, Hero raises to $2.58 and is all-in, UTG calls $0.56

River: ($5.61, 2 players) 6

UTG shows 5 9 (Straight, Nine High) (Pre 15%, Flop 19%, Turn 100%)
Hero shows A A (Two Pair, Aces and Sixes) (Pre 85%, Flop 81%, Turn 0%)
UTG wins $5.41

Any thoughts/opinions would be appreciated but I'm going to use this thread mainly as a tool to keep me motivated and on track.

Thanks.
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Old 07-21-2012, 12:35 AM   #2
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Re: My goals to live off poker.

Good luck on your journey, but try not to be too money orientated if you want to improve.
As for the hand the preflop and flop were played fine, but on the turn the c/r and especially the 4 bet should have alarm bells ringing, esp on that board at 2NL were people play any hands they are dealt. Its hard to lay down aces, esp wen you dont get to see what the opponent had, but really gotta do it in this situation my friend.
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Old 07-22-2012, 07:14 AM   #3
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Good luck on your journey, but try not to be too money orientated if you want to improve.
As for the hand the preflop and flop were played fine, but on the turn the c/r and especially the 4 bet should have alarm bells ringing, esp on that board at 2NL were people play any hands they are dealt. Its hard to lay down aces, esp wen you dont get to see what the opponent had, but really gotta do it in this situation my friend.
Thanks. Yeh I know it was a bad play, but I get married to my aces >.<

Played a couple of sessions yesterday, didn't go well at all.

4.4k hands in the first and bled 4.76BB/100.

Second session was 7k hands, had a bad start put pulled back some losses to be down 0.83 BB/100.

Biggest holes on my game are definitely calling when it's obvious a straight/flush has got there for the villian, over valuing AK and learning to fold KK. KK has cost me 2.46 BB/100 and AK has cost me 1.91 BB/100.

Tonight I'm going to try some normal FR 2NL and see if the opposition is any different.
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Old 07-22-2012, 07:17 AM   #4
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Gl mate, do you have Skype?
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Old 07-22-2012, 07:21 AM   #5
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Gl mate, do you have Skype?
Yeh I do mate, will send you a PM.

Edit: Scrap that, think I need a minimum amount of posts to send PMs. My skype is dardy.nong (strong no racist).
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Old 07-22-2012, 07:40 AM   #6
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Re: My goals to live off poker.

I wish you luck friend...I have a year head start on you, and honestly, From the US, I dont think its possible to live off poker...Everyone knows how to play...My only hope I think is to have good varience kick in, and to really agressively expoit the small edges...For me, I have to create the edge, meaning, I have to take half the regs stack, piss him off, now I have edge cause he's mad and gonna tilt the rest of his stack..Its hard here..I hope the bigger player pools your exposed to make it better..will be following your progress..
ABout the skalansky book, I read it one year after i began trial and error poker..I had already learned everything in the book the hard way!..point is, it may haved saved you a year!!
Its a good book for a solid game, in 1994....Now that I know the type of guy sklansky is, theres nothing special..He's a regular ol' JO who learned poker the trial and error method, well, then wrote a book..Average guy, decent brain capacity..
We have to be a 4x sklansky now a days...

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Old 07-23-2012, 06:11 AM   #7
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Re: My goals to live off poker.

Playing a lot more hands then I imagine I would with zoom, so won't update as regularly as I original hoped, but here's the first.




As you can see, I am a bit all over the place. Changed my play style a bit after that huge dip and will play another 5-10k hands before I really analyse my stats as I feel I'm still finding my way.

Overall I'm up $31.63 as I didn't log my first couple of sessions with PT3, cashed in the 100K free roll twice for ~$1.00 each time and last night I earnt my first VPP bonus, $10.00 credit for 1FPP after reaching 750 VPPSs.
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Old 07-23-2012, 02:28 PM   #8
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Re: My goals to live off poker.

Played about 4.5k hands tonight, was doing great for the first 2.5k, but then just encountered the baddest of bad beats I have ever seen. AA tonight has cost me ~$2...
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Old 07-24-2012, 05:20 AM   #9
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Had a quick afternoon session during the off-peak for stars and did much better then last night.

Playing super tight 4 tabling still, probably get taken advantage of my the regs with stats on me, but seems I can just wait for fish to pay me off and turn a profit. The other thing I have noticed with playing tighter is I can squeeze ~300 hands/hour extra out. Not sure if I was just running good or if tightening up has worked.

1,552 hands, 0.98 hours, 8.39 BB/100, 7.67 VPIP, 5.28 PFR, 2.38 AF
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Old 07-24-2012, 02:20 PM   #10
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Online is so rigged... Lost count of the number of times I have shipped with a set for runner runner flush/straight to get there or for the board to go 4 to a straight and some J4o to take it down. Number of times I've shipped with top 2 pair to get called by someone with a gutshot and land is stupid...

KK flopped a set tonight and got cracked in 2NL buy AQo calling not only preflop 3 bet but all in on the flop with a gutshot. Cost me $8.50. Went on hardcore supertilt down to $41.79...

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Old 07-24-2012, 03:32 PM   #11
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Re: My goals to live off poker.

Another quality hand bought to you by Riverstars.com

PokerStars - $0.02 NL ZOOM - Holdem - 9 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

BTN: $1.82
Hero (SB): $3.47
BB: $1.37
UTG: $2.08
UTG+1: $2.18
MP: $1.34
MP+1: $0.78
LP: $1.57
CO: $2.02

Hero posts SB $0.01, BB posts BB $0.02

Pre Flop: ($0.03) Hero has A K

fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to $0.06, BB raises to $0.18, Hero raises to $0.54, BB calls $0.36

Flop: ($1.08, 2 players) Q K 2
Hero bets $0.52, BB raises to $0.83 and is all-in, Hero calls $0.31

Turn: ($2.74, 2 players) A

River: ($2.74, 2 players) J

Spoiler:
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Old 07-24-2012, 09:06 PM   #12
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You're putting in crazy volume dude. Move to 5nl IMO. 2nl does/did my ****ing head in.
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Old 07-25-2012, 11:24 AM   #13
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You're putting in crazy volume dude. Move to 5nl IMO. 2nl does/did my ****ing head in.
Yeh will tonight. Just have to accept the bad beats, guess as I'm playing so many hands I'm not used to seeing them so often.

Played in a $40+10 live tourney today at the only Casino in the state (some Americans might find that had to believe I imagine). Made top 50% of players, then busted out with a stupid resteal attempt. But it put into perspective how often bad beats can really happen.

One had someone limps in, SB/BB call/check. 2/8/8 rainbow flop. Check/Check limper raises all in. SB folds, BB calls. BB shows AQo, limper shows 78s. Board goes runner runner aces...
Very next hand short stack shoves all in from cut off. BB is the only caller. BB shows 52 of clubs, other guys shows A4 of clubs. BB ends up getting a full house while original better has Ace high.
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Old 07-25-2012, 03:18 PM   #14
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Re: My goals to live off poker.

2 table some 5NL Zoom tonight as it was my first time playing higher then 2NL for more then 10 minutes. Had a good session, only had KK run into AA once for a change haha.

1,033 hands, 1.45 hours, 6.88/BB/100, 13.26 VPIP, 9.49 PFR, 2.46 AF
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Old 07-25-2012, 04:40 PM   #15
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Have also stopped listening to DnB during sessions. Think that just gets my blood pumping a little to much. Instead have been listening to trance or prog house, little bit of chilled out dubstep as well. Keeps me relaxed and honestly think it helps keep me off tilt. The thing I love most after family is definitely music...
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