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08-16-2014 , 02:56 AM
"the fish"? I'm pretty sure the person he three barreled with the AK was a reg. And if you're barreling your strong hands and missed flush draws you won't be bluffing too often such that your betting range (and sizing) is unexploitable and will be profitable (of course we could dive deep into this discussion here). And to "dab" I don't like checking river I like betting for value but as we checked I'll be calling with AQ given that we are at the top of our range and if we aren't calling this hand we aren't calling anything. At this point were getting odds and we can't be sure he has us beat. I call. More importantly I bet turn for value and shove river
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08-16-2014 , 04:17 AM
Thanks for responding dd. This is Tom btw. I agree that hero should be value betting on this river. However as played I still lean towards folding river. I don't think there are enough hands in villian's range we beat. I could change my mind and agree with calling if we have reason to believe that villian is capable of turning worse pairs into a bluff but I just haven't seen this type of player do that often enough to justify a call imo.
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08-16-2014 , 05:05 AM
Oh, jus read worldsbiggestnit post. +1 Very good post
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08-16-2014 , 05:10 AM
Oh whadup tom haha , well to be honest when we check and he jams i feel kinda meh however I don't think we can fold unless we are very sure he is never bluffing. This would def be an exploitative fold is what im saying and so we would need very good reason to make it and if we aren't sure I think calling is best and standard. Also, worldsbiggestnit brought up good points for the call that are separate from the range based reason I'm giving
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08-16-2014 , 06:40 AM
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"the fish"? I'm pretty sure the person he three barreled with the AK was a reg.
Iol I was messing with him
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08-16-2014 , 03:53 PM
hey regs can still be fish!

I think it's reasonable that villain has hands like AT, TT, JT, maybe AhKh in his bluffing range. We're going to be seeing 9T a lot here too.

Tom/Varx, this is definitely not like a fist-pump snap call, but the fish is either taking a pretty weird line with a value hand that got there on the turn or a pretty weird line on some sort of hand that has some showdown equity that he's decided to turn into a bluff on the river. I agree that we're almost never seeing villain value-own himself w a worse Q in this spot.

When fish take weird lines, esp. when stuck at 6am, I generally make them prove it, plus we're calling 390 to win 740 so we only need to be good here around 35%+ of the time to show profit.
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08-16-2014 , 04:13 PM
Worldsbiggestnit, thanks for replying. I just wanted to hear both yours and drawingdeadds reasoning for calling because me and varx were discussing this hand the other day and I just thought it was kind of a weird spot. I actually think I've been convinced now that calling here is slightly better than folding.
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08-16-2014 , 10:46 PM
Thank you to everyone for looking over the hands. I was going to post some more on it but it seems like everyone covered a lot already. I appreciate the feedback!

I'm starting to feel like I'm zen Buddha himself, I haven't had a session where I won a BI for my last seven sessions but I'm still doing my best to not punt stacks. I'm working on taking out the small -EV preflop spots that can lead to more spew.

Some examples are iso-ing too wide as I mentioned already over pretty strong limping ranges. If I keep my preflop ranges nice and clean my spew will be rarer and when I do spew postflop I hope to have good equity and FE so I don't have to feel like I made a bad barrel or whatever.

Like I was looking over a hand from the other session:

550-ish effective

Straight forward reg opens to 20 from MP, 3 calls, I'm in the BB with 95.... I 3b to $100, reg snap folds and I'm happy, until it folds to the BTN where he looks at me like "really?" and calls. HU.

FLOP (260): Q84
I bet 135, V jamms for 450, I swiftly hollywood fold.

Because I don't know all the villains, maybe I'm being results oriented and it wasn't as bad as it looked. It also could have been terrible spew from the get go even with me knowing the reg was light. It doesn't really matter because what I do know is that I can have better hands for this play.

Basically I don't have to go after and exploit every light open or whatever and leave my self exposed in the process by being extremely unbalanced. This could even be an indication of some underlying mental glitches I have such as ego or entitlement since "no one gets to be light except me" haha. Thats another can of worms for another time, I meant for this post to just be a quick thank you to the friends who commented on the hands, not a Dr. Phil post.

I guess I'll use this post as an offering to the poker gods since I must have angered them somewhere down the line. I hope they accept it and shower me with good spots and even better runouts. If not, thats ok, I'll keep trying.

Heading to the B!

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08-19-2014 , 10:33 AM
I guess my offering was accepted, although it didn't seem like it at first.

Fold my first hand of the session, my second hand I pick up QQ. 3 limpers, I raise to $30 from MP, LP guy calls, BB raises to $60, I think for a bit and look at the guy, he's older, maybe 35-40. Idk what he would want to min-raise me with, theres still another guy to act. He has a $300 stack and so does the other guy, I have $500. I decide to min-raise GII. LP guy tanks forever and folds, BB jams all in. I call and get shown AA. I complain in my head for a bit and happened to be texting Duke at the moment. I asked what he'd do in that spot, he said "Never getting it in. BB usually has KK+ here." Yep, it was pretty obvious. It was irritating me that I got it in knowing I'd be behind often and decided to stack off because "It was 60 bbs man". It seems like it isn't terrible in a vacuum (to me anyway) but if I want to maximally exploit I have to set mine there. Its live poker. A few seconds later the LP guy was talking about how he folded QQ. Even he got away from it lol.

Next big hand I get a big draw with 76 on a X54 board GII and brick out and get shown AA. Bleed a few other hands and I'm in for $1200. Finally hit a good flop with AKo, jam turn, lady hits a straight on the river. In for $1700. Pretty much over the session and I tell my self if I drop $2k I'm going to cut the session short. I was very fortunate to win the next small pots I played and started to slowly chip up. I got lucky one hand where I had 55 as the PFR and turned a set and got paid off by a weak ace for a decent pot. After about 9 hours, I was hovering around with a $1500 stack, the table was deep and it was early in the morning.

I'm in EP and look down at KK raise to $20, 3 callers.

FLOP (80):KJT
I bet 75, Guy next to me makes it 200, folds to me and I call

TURN (480):8
Check, check

RIVER (480): T
I bet 300, Guy goes AI for 950, I call

Guy has JT

Yes! Finally on the good side of a cooler and it feels good. A little later I get AKo, squeeze to 100 after 3 people call an open, PFR jams for 400, I call. He has TT. K on the flop for the win. Heat. Table got short and game ended when some people got up. Decided to call it a win at 11 hours and +$1850. Its been a while...

It'd be nice to keep the momentum up and finish August strong. Volume is at 91 hours, about average or slightly below I guess, I'd be happy with 140+. I messed up my sleep schedule again so hopefully I can reset after tonights session.
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08-19-2014 , 11:21 AM
good session

dont try too hard to make the magic happen. just let the magic come to you.
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08-24-2014 , 02:53 PM
Coming to you live from the Bellagio:

Whale on the table, I have 97o in the BB. Checked to my option and we see a flop. 973, we get all in for ~550 and I lose to 9T, runner runner straight. No biggie, keep my cool and reload.

A few hours later he goes runner runner flush on my overpair, luckily I didn't get stacks in. 10 hours later I'm sitting on $1.1k. Down $400.

HERO UTG $1100 AA
Whale BTN $2500

Hero raises to 25, two calls, whale raises to 80, Hero raises to 260, two guys fold, whale calls.

FLOP (570): 843
HERO bets 300, whale goes AI for 840, I call

TURN (2200): 5
I say "duuuude please don't"

RIVER (2200): 7
Whale stands up and slams AK on the table and starts clapping.

Dammit man, how the hell am I supposed to make it if I can't fade this.

I'm on hour 11 right now, rebuy for $500.... Meanwhile the whale has 4k in front. I'm not even tilted, we'll see if I can recover. In for $2000, I have $550 in front.

Last edited by Varx; 08-24-2014 at 02:59 PM.
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08-24-2014 , 08:01 PM
Jeez, brutallllll. Keep fighting
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08-24-2014 , 09:13 PM
Didn't make it happen, some crusher stacked the fish while I squandered my opportunity.

Also did genuinely run bad but thats not even the worst part. Disappointed in myself.

-$1642, 17 hours.

Gotta build back up to 2/5, the 2x BI's I have ain't enough. Gonna stick to 1/3 until I hit 15k.

Kept going for the shortcut and now I have to take an even longer path. Guess I had to figure it out the hard way again.
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08-24-2014 , 09:20 PM
Pretty sick Varx.

I have no doubt that guys like you and Duke who are struggling right now are longterm winners at 2/5+. Oftentimes, life just throws a little adversity at us and the journey takes longer than we anticipated.
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08-25-2014 , 01:14 AM
If it were easy, everyone would do it. Stay patient and keep working hard man, you'll be crushing 2/5 eventually.
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08-29-2014 , 07:11 PM
Hey man keep your chin up and keep going. I'm finally in town and will be playing all weekend or watching some games. If you want to grab some lunch or get a drink or something let me know. We can talk poker, but I'm probably well behind you in the NLHE learning curve.

Good luck!
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09-01-2014 , 05:55 PM
DID U DIE
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09-01-2014 , 07:02 PM
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DID U DIE
Hahaha, Yes. Yes I did. But now I'm back.

So for the past two months I've been bouncing back and forth between 10k and 15k after expenses, couldn't really break through once I hit 15k. So not much to talk about because I'm not gonna complain about bad beats (sorry I know I did the last few posts but I couldn't restrain myself lol).

Not a great month but whatever, gonna keep it moving:






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Pretty sick Varx.

I have no doubt that guys like you and Duke who are struggling right now are longterm winners at 2/5+. Oftentimes, life just throws a little adversity at us and the journey takes longer than we anticipated.
Thanks man. It definitely sucks, but its supposed to make you stronger or something right? I hope so!

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If it were easy, everyone would do it. Stay patient and keep working hard man, you'll be crushing 2/5 eventually.
True true. I guess I could be working harder.

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Hey man keep your chin up and keep going. I'm finally in town and will be playing all weekend or watching some games. If you want to grab some lunch or get a drink or something let me know. We can talk poker, but I'm probably well behind you in the NLHE learning curve.

Good luck!
Thanks! My chin is all busted up but hopefully that just means I talk less and grind more haha. Sounds good, I'll be playing around the Wynn or Bellagio this month.
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09-01-2014 , 07:18 PM
Sick hourly
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09-01-2014 , 07:21 PM
Haha I know

"Would you like some fries with that?"

FML
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09-02-2014 , 10:22 AM
Mannnnnnnn listen, you're a profitable poker player living in Vegas, that's an accomplishment. Keep grinding, it WILL turn for you. PS me and my friend are moving to Vegas in February to grind full time. Holla hahha
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09-06-2014 , 03:10 PM
Up early today. Breakfast at Denny's. Ultimate omelette, extra cheese.

Shaking it up a bit, playing the 25k GTD daily at the Wynn. 1/3 all day after that.

Back to the updates. Back to the grind.
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09-06-2014 , 08:34 PM
Jack Links All-in moment.

Antes 25 150/300

HERO 30k A3
SB 14k

BTN raises to 1100, SB calls,
HERO raises to 3700, BTN folds, SB calls.

FLOP (9800): T25
SB checks, HERO bets 4100, SB jams 11000, HERO calls

SB opens KQ

TURN (40000): K

RIVER (40000): 5

Looking back at it, I should have jammed flop but I didn't properly double check V's stack.

I'm crippled after that hand and I limp past the second break. I'm sitting at around 15bbs for a few hours, barely hanging on by stealing blinds.

Antes 75 400/800

HERO 12k AQ

2 limps, HERO is AI for 12k, SB calls

SB opens KQ

A) V hits a flush on the river
B) V hits a King on the turn
C) HERO hits an Ace on the flop, V turns a gutshot on the turn and rivers a straight then does the electric slide
D) HERO wins in any way

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09-07-2014 , 08:11 AM
Sounds like you had a fun tournament :-p
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09-07-2014 , 03:41 PM
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