Today I have played three shorter seesions. My red line keeps falling but today I don't mind it too much as fish payed off my AA three times.
There have been two hands I would like to hear your opinion about. In the first hand villain was a 64/23 (over 84 hands) but he wasn't crazy postflop. Do you call OTF?
Preflop: Hero is CO with J J
UTG raises to $0.40, MP folds, Hero calls $0.40, 3 folds
Flop: ($0.95) 8 2 T (2 players)
UTG bets $6.36, Hero has to call $6.36
In the second hand villain was a 32/5 (over 40 hands) fish w/ a normal postflop aggression. OTT I checked back for pot controll as he called my flop c-bet 4-way. Do you call OTR?
I was 21/18. Do you think it's too loose? You can see on my graph that my red line got even worse somewhere around the 40.000th hand. That was actually the point when PS changed its buy-in structure and a lot of SS fish appeared and I had to play a tighter game. On the other hand you're certainly right saying I have to improve my postflop game so that I can win pots w/o going to SD as I obviously don't always have a good SD-able hand.
My flop c-bet is really a bit low and I think I should triple barrel more often too.
Thx for the advice!
I don't think 21/18 is too loose at all. At the moment, I believe I'm running somehthing like 21 or 22/17 at 10nl. At 2nl I was playing something like 23/19. Just make sure that you're using pressure at the right times and pay attention to board texture and your position. And definitely take a lot of notes - this is something that I have to constantly remind myself to work on. Right now, I feel I'm playing too much of a breakeven game, so I'm going to reduce my tables down from 6 to 2 or 3 and concentrate on making as many notes as I can on the players and different lines to take to adjust. And of course, i'm getting back into utilizing my HUD during my play.
And definitely take a lot of notes - this is something that I have to constantly remind myself to work on. Right now, I feel I'm playing too much of a breakeven game, so I'm going to reduce my tables down from 6 to 2 or 3 and concentrate on making as many notes as I can on the players and different lines to take to adjust. And of course, i'm getting back into utilizing my HUD during my play.
About taking notes: I do it regularly and I have a lot of notes on my opponents. The problem is they aren't really useful at this stake:
The player pool is very big and you simply don't often meet your opponents again:
fish vanish and you never see them again and
regulars step up quickly and
a lot of new players change (improve?) their play quickly and a note taken today won't be reliable tomorrow.
I table select very cautiously (often starting tables myself) and I try to avoid already marked (colour coded) solid players.
I play relatively short sessions (max. an hour) and I don't sit w/ them for an enough long time.
So you may ask me why I bother to make notes at all? Well, I have three main reasons:
I have to practice as at higher stakes my arguments above become more and more false and less watertight.
I learn a lot about general player tendencies by doing so.
It helps me to stay focused during the game.
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Originally Posted by foam21
Subscribing and following, good luck furkae!
Thx!
Last edited by furkae; 04-09-2011 at 02:04 AM.
Reason: One more reason for taking notes.
Terrible day again... This is my graph after one week since I started this challange:
My stats so far:
#Hands: 3813 // That's fine given my possibilities.
WR: +1.39 bb/100 // Obviously terrible although I have run 1.5 BI under EV.
WR w/o SD: -14.41 bb/100
I would be happy to hear your opinion on the next hand. BB was a 38/5 (over 21 hands) fish w/ a very high postflop aggression. BTN was a 33/19 (over 130 hands) laggy fish. He was also aggro postflop but not crazy. I thought I was ahead OTF/OTR but I didn't want to raise into these two opponents. What do you think?
I don't think you have anything better than a bluff catcher on the river, and I doubt either one of these guys will be bluffing. You played the hand pretty well actually imo. On the river, A6, A7, and A8 now has two pair and a stubborn Ax got there as well, and there's a possible straight on the turn and either could be slowplaying sets or overpairs. Make a note how the hand was played by each player - you may not see them again but you will definitely see similiar play in smiliar spots. The only thing I could see doing differently would be leading the turn for like 2/3rds pot when you pick up the oesd - probably not the best play, but cheaper than a check/raise, it could get the hand to showdown and you might even lose one of the other players. But fold to raise, check/fold river. I think you played the hand fine though.
I don't think you have anything better than a bluff catcher on the river, and I doubt either one of these guys will be bluffing. You played the hand pretty well actually imo. On the river, A6, A7, and A8 now has two pair and a stubborn Ax got there as well, and there's a possible straight on the turn and either could be slowplaying sets or overpairs. Make a note how the hand was played by each player - you may not see them again but you will definitely see similiar play in smiliar spots. The only thing I could see doing differently would be leading the turn for like 2/3rds pot when you pick up the oesd - probably not the best play, but cheaper than a check/raise, it could get the hand to showdown and you might even lose one of the other players. But fold to raise, check/fold river. I think you played the hand fine though.
Thanks for your answer! Actually I was ahead OTF (which I was quite sure of) but I didn't want to blow the pot OOP against two fish w/ a weak made hand. OTT I thought the same and I picked up an OESD so I elected to call again. OTR I would have called the small bet made by the huge fish but the reraise of the BTN made me clear I was almost certainly beaten. Actually the BB had an A and the BTN made a straight OTT...
As usual being passive spared me the pain paying off the BTN as I don't think he would have folded to a c/r OTF. These passive lines result in less variance but they can be less profitable too esp. OOP. In other words I should be more aggro (spewy?) sometimes so that I can experience other lines which can be more profitable.
River: ($4.48) 3 (2 players)
Hero checks, CO checks
Results: $4.48 pot ($0.21 rake)
Final Board: 2 9 4 2 3
CO showed 5 6 and won $4.27 ($2.08 net)
Hero showed J J and lost (-$2.19 net)
I think my first bigger improvement should be to 3bet more both for value and as a bluff. I have found some solid threads in this topic. I'll collect and reread them so that I can better incorporate this into my game.
My second session today didn't start well (run into AA w/ KK) but I managed to climb back and ended almost break even.
As I steal a lot I get 3bet a lot too and most of the time I end up folding. I think it's basically fine but I'm not really happy with it. My main problem is I don't usally have too many hands on my opponents (see why here) but it has a huge impact on my red line so this should be handled somehow better.
River: ($1.25) 6 (3 players)
Hero bets $1.07, MP folds, CO raises to $3.83 and is all-in, Hero calls $2.76
Results: $8.91 pot ($0.44 rake)
Final Board: Q 2 J 3 6
Hero showed 3 2 and lost (-$4.23 net)
MP mucked and lost (-$0.40 net)
CO showed 5 4 and won $8.47 ($4.24 net)
The river should have been an (easy?) b/f even against him.
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(over 15 hands), postflop normal. I seriously thought I was ahead OTR...
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