nice which one?

None yet..lol but eventually it will happen

Fair enough!

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IDK I kinda felt dumb after going for it here but, yeah IDK lol

Ignition - $5 PL Hi (6 max) - Omaha Hi - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 22.5 BB
SB: 99 BB
BB: 110.42 BB
UTG: 45.18 BB
Hero (CO): 109.36 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has T A Q 3

UTG calls 1 BB, Hero raises to 4.5 BB, fold, fold, fold, UTG calls 3.5 BB

Flop: (10.5 BB, 2 players) 8 J 7
UTG checks, Hero checks

Turn: (10.5 BB, 2 players) 7
UTG bets 9.98 BB, Hero raises to 39.9 BB, UTG raises to 40.68 BB and is all-in, Hero calls 0.78 BB

River: (91.86 BB, 2 players) 5

Have you not seen my PG&C? I've put stacks in dead a few times ahaha..I mean i get it, but we have like 12 outs? And 8: isn't that bad of a card really so dare I say "clean outs" lol..I think just checking back to realize equity is best IMO.

That being said, sometimes you gotta let er rip and pray LOL

yeah I think I check back if he checks. As played should prob just fold this one

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Oh hello there

Ignition - $10 PL Hi (6 max) - Omaha Hi - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 99.5 BB
SB: 210.8 BB
BB: 91.22 BB
UTG: 28.5 BB
Hero (MP): 124.85 BB
CO: 117.94 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 5 A Q K

fold, Hero raises to 3.5 BB, fold, fold, SB calls 3 BB, BB calls 2.5 BB

Flop: (10.5 BB, 3 players) T J 9
SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets 5.05 BB, fold, BB raises to 15.15 BB, Hero raises to 39.35 BB, BB calls 24.2 BB

Turn: (89.2 BB, 2 players) 4
BB bets 48.37 BB and is all-in, Hero calls 48.37 BB

River: (185.94 BB, 2 players) 3

holy smokes that was aggro

Ignition - $5 PL Hi (6 max) - Omaha Hi - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (CO): 150.95 BB
BTN: 282.04 BB
SB: 354.88 BB
BB: 28.5 BB
UTG: 232.88 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 4 7 6 5

fold, Hero raises to 3.5 BB, BTN calls 3.5 BB, SB calls 3 BB, fold

Flop: (11.5 BB, 3 players) 6 6 2
SB bets 5.46 BB, Hero raises to 21.85 BB, fold, SB raises to 46.24 BB, Hero calls 24.39 BB

Turn: (103.99 BB, 2 players) 8
SB bets 103.39 BB, Hero calls 101.21 BB and is all-in

River: (306.4 BB, 2 players) Q

Free free...freefreefree

Is $5 PLO 500plo?

i'd actually look at everyone else's folded cards. this is one of those hands where it's so aggro / bad that it makes you wonder if SB is colluding with someone and one of the players that folded pre folded a 6.

Ya $5 PLO = PLO500

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Re: collusion. This guy was playing like 70% VPIP so I doubt it (I mean even if someone folded a 6 shouldn't I still be heavily weighted to trips+ after calling a flop 3 bet multiway?). That being said, it's a good idea to check anyway, thanks for the suggestion.

In fact I do check occasionally but since it takes some time, I only look at reggy players. I have never seen any suggestion of colluding players at my stake. I'm sure there exists unfair play somewhere in the online poker world, but I feel like the reputation is greatly damaged by riggies spewing bullshit that it is widespread in order to justify to themselves why they can't win (see the Ignition thread on 2+2), it's very sad.

To be fair to them, the human brain is very fallible to seeing false patterns- it is inevitable for many people who aren't studied in this area to believe the game is rigged against them somehow. I should have practiced gratitude that I am lucky to have strong logic skills rather than just call them riggies (aka idiots), but yeah that was my initial reaction lol. On a related tangent, the same people saying poker is too hard in 2021, it's not, literally anyone who loves the game and has motivation/discipline can make a nice living off of it. Also damaging to poker reputation

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Thank you for the comments everyone!

Was kinda in the mood for NLHE, haven't played in a bit so my theory is weak and freestyled some betsizings

Ignition - $2 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 99.69 BB
Hero (SB): 97.58 BB
BB: 85.4 BB
UTG: 113.48 BB
MP: 138.96 BB
CO: 100 BB

Hero posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has J J

fold, fold, CO raises to 2.5 BB, BTN calls 2.5 BB, Hero raises to 14 BB, fold, fold, BTN calls 11.5 BB

Flop: (31.5 BB, 2 players) 5 Q 3
Hero bets 10 BB, BTN calls 10 BB

Turn: (51.5 BB, 2 players) 3
Hero bets 10 BB, BTN calls 10 BB

River: (71.5 BB, 2 players) 7
Hero bets 10 BB, BTN calls 10 BB



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OK maybe that sizing didn't get enough value (although I imagine it's tough to get much more) in the previous hand, let's try this sizing

Ignition - $2 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

UTG: 82.19 BB
Hero (MP): 162.73 BB
CO: 85 BB
BTN: 129 BB
SB: 47.5 BB
BB: 168.62 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 5 5

fold, Hero raises to 2.5 BB, fold, fold, fold, BB calls 1.5 BB

Flop: (5.5 BB, 2 players) A 5 K
BB checks, Hero bets 7.92 BB, BB calls 7.92 BB

Turn: (21.34 BB, 2 players) 8
BB checks, Hero bets 30.28 BB, BB calls 30.28 BB

River: (81.89 BB, 2 players) 7
BB checks, Hero bets 122.03 BB and is all-in, fold

So interestingly enough, someone did fold a 6 in the suspected collusion hand, that being said I believe it is purely coincidental, I mean it's like a 1/3 chance or something

Especially because I played this beauty of a hand against that same player who folded the 6 in the previous hand (additionally, the aggro player in the previous hand with 9874ss was the UTG player who bet/folded flop in this one)

Ignition - $5 PL Hi (6 max) - Omaha Hi - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (SB): 435.84 BB
BB: 93 BB
UTG: 128.51 BB
CO: 24.7 BB
BTN: 220.69 BB

Hero posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 9 3 9 3

UTG raises to 3.5 BB, fold, BTN calls 3.5 BB, Hero calls 3 BB, BB calls 2.5 BB

Flop: (14 BB, 4 players) 3 2 2
Hero checks, BB checks, UTG bets 13.4 BB, BTN calls 13.4 BB, Hero raises to 38.2 BB, fold, fold, BTN calls 24.8 BB

Turn: (103.8 BB, 2 players) 8
Hero bets 71.4 BB, BTN calls 71.4 BB

River: (246.6 BB, 2 players) 9
Hero bets 184.5 BB, BTN calls 107.59 BB and is all-in

I'll just say that I had some really extraordinary things happen to me on Ignition, both WRT creepy situations and running below EV.

I would bet on there being some collusion to some extent, but I wouldn't bet my life on it (and obviously it hasn't stopped you from doing well).

^ ya i agree collusion exists. I just don't think it's that widespread, as in I don't think I play vs. it most sessions

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More mixing in 5/10 but I'm having a hard time beating it

Ignition - $10 PL Hi (6 max) - Omaha Hi - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (SB): 99 BB
BB: 386.7 BB
UTG: 241.4 BB
CO: 76.7 BB
BTN: 436.62 BB

Hero posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 4 A K T
fold, CO raises to 3.5 BB, BTN raises to 12 BB, Hero raises to 40.5 BB, fold, fold, BTN calls 28.5 BB

Flop: (85.5 BB, 2 players) 7 Q J
Hero bets 58.5 BB and is all-in, BTN calls 58.5 BB

Turn: (202.5 BB, 2 players) 8

River: (202.5 BB, 2 players) K

holy hell, did not expect a loose fish to fold that

Ignition - $10 PL Hi (6 max) - Omaha Hi - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

UTG: 281.09 BB
Hero (MP): 112.75 BB
CO: 146.7 BB
BTN: 122.73 BB
SB: 110.15 BB
BB: 104.1 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 5 J A K

fold, Hero raises to 3.5 BB, CO calls 3.5 BB, BTN calls 3.5 BB, fold, BB calls 2.5 BB

Flop: (14.5 BB, 4 players) A 9 Q
BB checks, Hero checks, CO checks, BTN checks

Turn: (14.5 BB, 4 players) 3
BB checks, Hero bets 10.58 BB, fold, fold, BB raises to 30 BB, Hero raises to 104.1 BB, fold

The first hand..yes thats the variance I was talking about. I mean i wish I could say I knew what it felt like to be BTN but I just don't have the good ol Q974 triple suited in my 3b CALL COLD 4B range LOL

That second hand is just wow.. I didnt think people were capable of that, I guess he thought you had AA and was trapping flop..either way taking it down on the turn is niceeeee...

haha well I mean considering he only loses to AA, I also guess he thought I had AA :P

would have been nice to ship this one but ah well

Ignition - $5 PL Hi (6 max) - Omaha Hi - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 133.33 BB
SB: 100.92 BB
BB: 87.5 BB
UTG: 77.75 BB
Hero (CO): 149.88 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has J A 8 T

UTG calls 1 BB, Hero raises to 4.5 BB, BTN calls 4.5 BB, SB calls 4 BB, fold, UTG calls 3.5 BB

Flop: (19 BB, 4 players) 6 Q 5
SB checks, UTG checks, Hero checks, BTN checks

Turn: (19 BB, 4 players) 8
SB bets 9.2 BB, UTG calls 9.2 BB, Hero calls 9.2 BB, BTN raises to 65 BB, SB calls 55.8 BB, UTG raises to 73.25 BB and is all-in, Hero calls 64.05 BB, BTN calls 8.25 BB, SB calls 8.25 BB

River: (312 BB, 4 players) J
SB checks, Hero checks, BTN bets 55.58 BB and is all-in, SB calls 23.17 BB and is all-in, fold

Using some old school logic of "no one ever bluffs in this spot, therefore I should bluff here". Pretty proud of this one, I felt in game he would fold anything that wasn't J9 exactly. But who knows maybe with J6 he'd just be like fk it I can't fold this it's too high up in my range. Either way I feel like I'm getting more comfortable with my game and willing to open up some creative options

Ignition - $5 PL Hi (6 max) - Omaha Hi - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 134.92 BB
SB: 137.4 BB
Hero (BB): 100 BB
UTG: 175.62 BB
MP: 102.28 BB
CO: 163.32 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has T 8 Q J

fold, MP raises to 3 BB, fold, BTN calls 3 BB, fold, Hero calls 2 BB

Flop: (9.5 BB, 3 players) 6 J 5
Hero checks, MP checks, BTN bets 5.77 BB, Hero calls 5.77 BB, MP calls 5.77 BB

Turn: (26.81 BB, 3 players) J
Hero checks, MP checks, BTN bets 19.51 BB, Hero calls 19.51 BB, fold

River: (65.83 BB, 2 players) 9
Hero bets 65.03 BB, fold

Ooo thats a spicy one..did you think if you x/r turn he might just stack off too often with better jacks?

what did you expect villain/fish to fold ? shocked by BB folding QQ here and then the 555 losing to one combo of J9 on the other hand. With that said, both of these spots are extremely underbluffed in my opinion... still doesn't stop people from making "bad" calls or whatever ime.

ya x/r turn with the QJT8 I feel like gets snapped by most Jxxx hands as they should often have 9 perceived outs if behind

I'm not surprised at all by the 55 fold, I would fold it as well in villain's shoes, and most of the pool would too. I don't know at all but I suspect 55 would be folded here in solverland even.

In the AKJ5ss hand I believe villain can fold quite a lot of hands, and I can even get it in good sometimes vs combo draw. Solvers may not recommend it but I believe plenty of recs in villains shoes would be tempted to raise with something like KJThh or JT8hh (3 card combos), or something like AQ or A9 with hearts, no?

Some more INTeresting Ignition play

Ignition - $5 PL Hi (6 max) - Omaha Hi - 4 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

CO: 115.33 BB
BTN: 324.52 BB
Hero (SB): 85 BB
BB: 223.45 BB

Hero posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has K T K A

fold, BTN raises to 3 BB, Hero raises to 10 BB, fold, BTN calls 7 BB

Flop: (21 BB, 2 players) A A J
Hero bets 6 BB, BTN calls 6 BB

Turn: (33 BB, 2 players) 7
Hero checks, BTN bets 12 BB, Hero calls 12 BB

River: (57 BB, 2 players) T
Hero checks, BTN bets 34 BB, Hero raises to 57 BB and is all-in, BTN calls 23 BB

welll hmmmmmmmm I was losing to like every part of his hand lol

Ignition - $5 PL Hi (6 max) - Omaha Hi - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (SB): 104.7 BB
BB: 468.6 BB
UTG: 123.15 BB
MP: 98.5 BB
CO: 129.29 BB
BTN: 128.87 BB

Hero posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 7 K J K

fold, fold, CO raises to 3.5 BB, fold, Hero raises to 11.5 BB, fold, CO calls 8 BB

Flop: (24 BB, 2 players) T 3 T
Hero checks, CO bets 23.2 BB, Hero calls 23.2 BB

Turn: (70.4 BB, 2 players) 3
Hero checks, CO checks

River: (70.4 BB, 2 players) 3
Hero checks, CO bets 69.6 BB, Hero calls 69.6 BB

This line feels pretty uncomfortable on the turn but it's probably fine?

Ignition - $5 PL Hi (6 max) - Omaha Hi - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

SB: 166.7 BB
BB: 120.69 BB
UTG: 105.03 BB
MP: 213.5 BB
CO: 80.37 BB
Hero (BTN): 104.42 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 8 5 K K

fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 3.5 BB, SB calls 3 BB, BB calls 2.5 BB

Flop: (10.5 BB, 3 players) K 3 Q
SB bets 4.99 BB, fold, Hero raises to 20.95 BB, SB calls 15.96 BB

Turn: (52.4 BB, 2 players) T
SB checks, Hero bets 26.8 BB, SB raises to 132.01 BB, Hero calls 53.16 BB and is all-in

River: (212.33 BB, 2 players) 4

Maybe 5d/BDFD changes this, but my instinct is to call flop and look for a safe turn?

Yeah I kinda like a flop call in a strategic PoV, but I think considering some of the play I've seen on this site there's just too much value not to raise.

Turn gotta bet. Too much value.

I'd pot turn though.