Did another all nighter- I never sleep, 'cause sleep is the cousin of death- and got a lot of 60s in. To be honest I think I played horrendously, every time I move up in stakes and play a reg for the first time I have this ****ing immature wish to show them that I'm the baddest mother ****er in town and I just spew relentlessly. I have to remind myself that most of the regulars playing below the 100s are really pretty bad, and make a lot of massive errors- 3x/folding <15bb is just one example, the guy was 50k+ winner as well.
One hand I massacred
(Out of many)
I don't even really know what the **** i was thinking here, the guy was a nitty pretty much break-even reg who is just never semi-bluffing this turn, I got waaay too cute and thought he'd read my turn bet as weak and check raise, he just wasn't thinking on that (admittedly retarded) level
Is it a bit worrying that I don't see anything wrong with the AA hand, apart from betting 200 on the turn?I guess you know this opponent better than I do, but I'd think most have enough FD, SD, QK AQ etc type hands in his range to make the all in good, + we still have equity vs any two pair. Good luck make sure you keep updating
I think the thing that is wrong is just flatting the c/r on the flop. He needs a pretty good hand to c/r a flop like 634hh; even more so if he is a nitty reg.
He could have flush draws, 5s, sets, two pairs, the works. So if it was me, I'd either fold or ship it in. He's basically not going anywhere, so make life easier for yourself.
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Is it a bit worrying that I don't see anything wrong with the AA hand, apart from betting 200 on the turn?I guess you know this opponent better than I do, but I'd think most have enough FD, SD, QK AQ etc type hands in his range to make the all in good, + we still have equity vs any two pair. Good luck make sure you keep updating
Cheers and good luck to you as well!
When he check-raises the turn he has two pair minimum, in fact, I'm pretty surprised he turned up with what he had. I think checking back the turn and then "**** it" calling all rivers is the correct line, followed by just bet-folding the turn. I bet small on the turn with the intention of bet/folding, I think it saves me a few chips when he does have it and I think it looks pretty strong, plus he can't just ship over it if he has a big combo draw. Obviously this is all totally irrelevant cause I shipped over it anyway :P.
Cheers and good luck to you as well!
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I think the thing that is wrong is just flatting the c/r on the flop. He needs a pretty good hand to c/r a flop like 634hh; even more so if he is a nitty reg.
He could have flush draws, 5s, sets, two pairs, the works. So if it was me, I'd either fold or ship it in. He's basically not going anywhere, so make life easier for yourself.
I think folding the flop is a bit nitty, he's going to be check/raising this flop with draws at least some of the time and I've got backdoor hearts and can bluff him off a lot of turns if he shows weakness (5,7,2,heart). Plus I've seen ABC regs check/raise top pair here in an attempt to get to a cheaper showdown. There are more reasons why I think folding is bad, I'm just too lazy to type them out. Also, I obviously have the luxury of 100+ hands on the guy, so know a bit more about how he plays.
I think shipping is the worst of the three options, we basically fold all of the few bluffs (more likely to me semi-bluffs) he has and we ain't doing well at all when he calls.
I think you contradict yourself a little bit in the bolded section.
Anyway, cheers for the comment and feel free to call me out if any of my reasoning is flawed
For the first time in months I actually went out last night, so a low volume day. I think I got in at 3.30ish and then had to wait a few hours for my self-ban to expire and for me to sober up but I managed 6 games or so.
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I'm pretty happy with the volume I've got in this month, ROI is a little below par but in all I'm relatively happy with my play.
Ciao ciao.
I'm on my laptop at the moment so don't have the exact figures to hand but I think my R.O.I for the month is around 12-13%, lifetime at the 30s it's around 15, I think.
The graph is probably 70% 30s. I've still not played enough to even bother thinking about what my potential R.O.I is at the 60s, I'd be happy with 10%+ though.
I couldn't get to sleep so decided to play a micro millions event, I donked my way to a top 20 chipstack and into the money before this happened-
Obviously I ran extremely well to get that many chips in the first place, it's still kinda tilting because the standard was really bad and if I'd managed to get 500k+ chips I could have made a run for the final table.
Anyway, gotta sleep now, gl everyone!
Edit-God, I just realised how lame it is to post beats (if you can even call it that) from $2 tournies, I promise it won't happen again.
I think folding the flop is a bit nitty, he's going to be check/raising this flop with draws at least some of the time and I've got backdoor hearts and can bluff him off a lot of turns if he shows weakness (5,7,2,heart). Plus I've seen ABC regs check/raise top pair here in an attempt to get to a cheaper showdown. There are more reasons why I think folding is bad, I'm just too lazy to type them out. Also, I obviously have the luxury of 100+ hands on the guy, so know a bit more about how he plays.
I think shipping is the worst of the three options, we basically fold all of the few bluffs (more likely to me semi-bluffs) he has and we ain't doing well at all when he calls.
I think you contradict yourself a little bit in the bolded section.
Anyway, cheers for the comment and feel free to call me out if any of my reasoning is flawed
Haha, no probs. Good to have a discussion! Yeah I mean I wasn't saying I'd fold, but I think those are your only choices really. And as you have the Ah, I'd ship it in. The reason why is pretty simple - there are just an absolute ton of turn cards that you'll hate.
If he is nitty and c/r a flop like this, I'd say your best scenario is facing a pair with a good flush draw. That's best. But even if he had top pair and a draw, you are going to hate so many cards. Yeah he could show weakness, but why make life difficult. I actually think shoving makes it look like you could have a draw too, so he may call you lighter.
I should probably add that in my experience, people rarely c/r as a semi-bluff on a flop like that and then fold, so that admittedly has skewed my opinion.
Haha, no probs. Good to have a discussion! Yeah I mean I wasn't saying I'd fold, but I think those are your only choices really. And as you have the Ah, I'd ship it in. The reason why is pretty simple - there are just an absolute ton of turn cards that you'll hate.
If he is nitty and c/r a flop like this, I'd say your best scenario is facing a pair with a good flush draw. That's best. But even if he had top pair and a draw, you are going to hate so many cards. Yeah he could show weakness, but why make life difficult. I actually think shoving makes it look like you could have a draw too, so he may call you lighter.
But there we go, we all have an opinion. GL tho.
I'm curious, why are you so against the idea of flatting the flop? In a parallel universe where I don't play the turn like a complete moron I either, A) Check back and then call most rivers, getting value from his bluffs whilst still being able to fold if a card that helps him a lot hits, or B) Bet/fold the turn, charging his draws but leaving myself an easy fold if he raises.
Let's pretend he did what I expected him to do and led the turn, I'd prob call any non- 5,2,7 and fold the river if he kept the pressure on.
I think the above decisions are all pretty standard, it's not like he's a tricky opponent who's capable of doing some crazy **** and putting me in a tough spot.
Because I just think that on this particular flop it gives you a potentially awful spot on the turn with so many cards with a hand that you (obviously) want to stack off with.
I have to admit I am no poker star and I play well below the 60s. But fwiw, what range do you think a nitty reg needs to c/r a 634hh flop? I'd say a pretty strong one. Basically, your Q turn is a total blank and the best card to carry on, but there were so many more that would have been a problem.
In my mind, he's either c/r a very strong hand (set or 2 pair+), or c/r a pair and strong draw. I'd flat so many other flops, but not this one.
I think bet folding the turn is bad because you are spewing against a tight range with a great hand. But as you say, if he had done what you thought, then calling any non 5, 2, 7 would be fine imo.
Because I just think that on this particular flop it gives you a potentially awful spot on the turn with so many cards with a hand that you (obviously) want to stack off with.
I have to admit I am no poker star and I play well below the 60s. But fwiw, what range do you think a nitty reg needs to c/r a 634hh flop? I'd say a pretty strong one. Basically, your Q turn is a total blank and the best card to carry on, but there were so many more that would have been a problem.
In my mind, he's either c/r a very strong hand (set or 2 pair+), or c/r a pair and strong draw. I'd flat so many other flops, but not this one.
I think bet folding the turn is bad because you are spewing against a tight range with a great hand. But as you say, if he had done what you thought, then calling any non 5, 2, 7 would be fine imo.
What I have bolded is the key difference between our thoughts on the hand. I think I can quite happily fold this hand on many turns and rivers.
Been a pretty meh few days, no real swings to report. I've been playing well whenever I've come against regulars but totally losing concentration against fish, I'll sort it out, hopefully.
I'm craving a proper grind so I'll try and get in 20+ games tomorrow
Yesterday was pretty good results wise, pretty much my biggest ever winning day at stakes lower than $100, tourney binks not included. I'm kinda annoyed with my play, I played my superduper A* game at the 60s but was enjoying myself a little too much at the 30s and spazzed out a little, which is sad ( ), 'cause the games were REALLLLY good last night and I should have had a +$300 EV day.
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Personally, I hate reading hand histories in PG+C threads, so I'll keep these to a minumum.
Hands I played well
Opponent was a OK reg. For what it's worth I think his river call is horrible.
Says a lot about my play that I could only find one hand I think I played well
Hand I played badly
Opponent was a fish. Very standard call down. He was passive and this was only his second donk, the jam was just a case of me trying to be too clever.
I just couldn't get anything going, pretty much went from my A to my C game (I'd say I can still beat fish playing my C-game). I just couldn't beat the biggest droolers on the planet. Whilst I'm prone to spells of total apathy, I very rarely tilt, or at least let tilt hinder my play. Today, however, I could feel myself tilting on a few occasions, which is a little bit errr... tilting(?) as it could have been a good day.
Anyway, I'm still AAA confident in my game, and I'm really enjoying the game at the moment, so I'll stop whining... and start winning!
*I apologise for that last line, what was i thinking?*
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I WILL PLAY WELL TOMORROW.
I WILL PLAY WELL TOMORROW.
I WILL PLAY WELL TOMORROW
I WILL PLAY WELL TOMORROW.
I WILL PLAY WELL TOMORROW
I WILL PLAY WELL TOMORROW
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), 'cause the games were REALLLLY good last night and I should have had a +$300 EV day.
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