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01-21-2011, 08:17 PM
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Join Date: Nov 2010
Posts: 40
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HUCASH challenge
Hey guys!
I'm creating a thread here in which I will write about my progress at the tables, I will post some of the hands here for analysis and also any other things related to poker..or not!
Right now I play on Perepetuum Poker, Entraction network, under the username PokerM3 , grinding the 20NL HU cash tables. I have been staked and coached by "alex23" here on 2p2 so I shouldn't have any real reason not to succeed in moving up in limits and beating the villains. Also I must write that I am racing for CardMaster in Perpetuum Poker, a promo in which I can win a live event buyin.
About me, I have been playing full time for more than a year now, mainly on IPN network under the same screenname, grinding HUSNG and Mtts, having more than 30 000$ profit in 2010.
But now I moved to cash, the real game, and i still get pwned sometimes even at these stakes. Until I learn the game and I am prepared to move up and start making real money, I'm grinding at 20NL as I said above. So far I played only about 10k hands, 4.5bb/100 and a bit over 10 BI profit. Still learning though.
Thats all for now, I'll be back with some hands and updates.
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01-21-2011, 09:37 PM
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enthusiast
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: The 3rd world baby!!!!
Posts: 98
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Re: HUCASH challenge
subscribed!!!
does the traffic at perpetuum poker good?
does the HUSnG fill up fast?
GL
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01-22-2011, 03:32 AM
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newbie
Join Date: Nov 2010
Posts: 40
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Re: HUCASH challenge
I didn't play any husng yet here but it all depends on the limit. I can tell you that the traffic is higher than on IPN though but the fees at husngs are 10% instead of 5%.
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01-26-2011, 09:12 PM
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newbie
Join Date: Nov 2010
Posts: 40
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Re: HUCASH challenge
Here's an interesting spot i had. He is a minraiser, raises about 75-80% from sb, and kinda loose.
Entraction $20.00 No Limit Hold'em - 2 players
2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked
BTN/SB: $30.99
Hero (BB): $29.45
Pre Flop: ($0.30) Hero is BB with 7  9
BTN/SB raises to $0.40, Hero raises to $1.40, BTN/SB calls $1
Flop: ($2.80) T  7  T (2 players)
Hero bets $1.80, BTN/SB raises to $5, Hero calls $3.20
Turn: ($12.80) 9 (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN/SB bets $12.80, Hero folds
Final Pot: $12.80
BTN/SB wins $12.16
(Rake: $0.64)
The 3bet preflop really was terrible but whats the appropriate line to take on the flop (turn) ?
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01-26-2011, 11:00 PM
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newbie
Join Date: Nov 2010
Posts: 40
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Re: HUCASH challenge
Here's another hand, this one is not tha ugly but I need your comments on which is the most +EV play against these type of players.
Entraction $10.00 No Limit Hold'em - 2 players
2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked
BB: $10.73
Hero (BTN/SB): $13.78
Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero is BTN/SB with J  Q
Hero raises to $0.30, BB calls $0.20
Flop: ($0.60) 4  J  7 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $0.40, BB raises to $1, Hero calls $0.60
Turn: ($2.60) 2 (2 players)
BB bets $1.95, Hero calls $1.95
River: ($6.50) 2 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $3.20, BB folds
Final Pot: $6.50
Hero wins $6.18
(Rake: $0.32)
He's been playing pretty tight, kinda passive, called a lot but didnt raise so much.
So what do you do here? Do you shove the turn?
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01-27-2011, 12:11 AM
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Carpal \'Tunnel
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: bunsen burner, nice little earner
Posts: 6,147
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Re: HUCASH challenge
Quote:
Originally Posted by PokerM3
Here's an interesting spot i had. He is a minraiser, raises about 75-80% from sb, and kinda loose.
Entraction $20.00 No Limit Hold'em - 2 players
2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked
BTN/SB: $30.99
Hero (BB): $29.45
Pre Flop: ($0.30) Hero is BB with 7  9
BTN/SB raises to $0.40, Hero raises to $1.40, BTN/SB calls $1
Flop: ($2.80) T  7  T (2 players)
Hero bets $1.80, BTN/SB raises to $5, Hero calls $3.20
Turn: ($12.80) 9 (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN/SB bets $12.80, Hero folds
Final Pot: $12.80
BTN/SB wins $12.16
(Rake: $0.64)
The 3bet preflop really was terrible but whats the appropriate line to take on the flop (turn) ?
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At 20nl I imagine most players are calling too wide PF, so I'd stick to straight value. Typically, when people m/r the btn its so they can call more 3bs. So you can 3b a little wider for value with hadns like KJ, maybe even AT, KTs, QTs, A9s and QJ if hes calling your 3bs a lot. Also when he m/r's he gives really good odds to call with these hands and try and hit a flop and we are 150bbs deep, so I'd typically just call pre.
The flop is a kinda tricky spot, he doesn't rep very much of anything. It's gonna depend how you think he plays, is he laggy or more passive. If hes been really passive then you're aren't giving up much by just folding the flop. I'd prob end up calling the flop because IME most players rarely ever cont with their bluffs on the turn so when you call he'll often just shutdown with his bluffs/draws.
As played we must fold turn, hes repping a big hand and if he was semi-bluffing flop then some draws jsut got there.
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Originally Posted by PokerM3
Here's another hand, this one is not tha ugly but I need your comments on which is the most +EV play against these type of players.
Entraction $10.00 No Limit Hold'em - 2 players
2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked
BB: $10.73
Hero (BTN/SB): $13.78
Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero is BTN/SB with J  Q
Hero raises to $0.30, BB calls $0.20
Flop: ($0.60) 4  J  7 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $0.40, BB raises to $1, Hero calls $0.60
Turn: ($2.60) 2 (2 players)
BB bets $1.95, Hero calls $1.95
River: ($6.50) 2 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $3.20, BB folds
Final Pot: $6.50
Hero wins $6.18
(Rake: $0.32)
He's been playing pretty tight, kinda passive, called a lot but didnt raise so much.
So what do you do here? Do you shove the turn?
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If hes been pretty passive then calling flop and turn is best IMO, jamming is overplaying our hand because he wont be c/ring his draws except the 3 combo draws and maybe the NFD. And sometimes not even those.
On the river its unlikely he ever calls us with worse really and sometimes he might even end up c/cing with AJ/KJ because hes too afraid to bet with the FD completing, that said I like ur vbet and the sizing. Fish turn up with the strangest hands and he can still make some weird herocalls with worse.
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01-27-2011, 12:39 AM
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newbie
Join Date: Nov 2010
Posts: 40
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Re: HUCASH challenge
Thanks for the answers.
In the 1st hand i screwed up preflop. Like you said, no need to 3bet that deep without position into a loose player with marginal hands.
In the 2nd hand, the question was if it was better to jam the turn. And in most of the cases I'd jam the turn because of the draws but vs a guy like this i prefer not to as he would rarely play his draws like that.
So basically, when he checks the river im only hoping he hasnt got KJ or AJ , i dont think he'll check there with a nut hand as he can easily bet or jam cause of his stack related to the pot. I can get called there by worse , and the betsizing on river can induce some stuff.
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02-04-2011, 09:03 AM
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newbie
Join Date: Nov 2010
Posts: 40
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Re: HUCASH challenge
Here's an update after 17k hands with my graph so far:
I finally feel the game better and better, worked on my leaks, especially that I tend to spew on tilt but I hope it that will become less of a problem .
I'll get back with some interesting hands/spots and can't wait to get some opinions on those!
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02-04-2011, 02:54 PM
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newbie
Join Date: Nov 2010
Posts: 40
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Re: HUCASH challenge
Here's a hand today against a reg , he is kinda aggro preflop, 3betting 33% in 100hands, he preferd 3betting usually when entering a pot. Post flop he didnt show a lot of aggression, played a bit tricky in some hands and he bets vs miss cbet around 65%.
Entraction $20.00 No Limit Hold'em - 2 players
2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked
BB: $41.19
Hero (BTN/SB): $22.05
Pre Flop: ($0.30) Hero is BTN/SB with 2  6
Hero raises to $0.60, BB raises to $1.80, Hero raises to $4, BB calls $2.20
Flop: ($8.00) 8  Q  6 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks
Turn: ($8.00) K (2 players)
BB bets $5.20, Hero raises to $18.05, BB folds
Final Pot: $18.40
Hero wins $4.80
(Rake: $0.75)
I had the option of folding pre but i wanted to feel up this guy.
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02-04-2011, 04:39 PM
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self-banned
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Champions League, here we come!!!
Posts: 2,659
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Re: HUCASH challenge
Quote:
Originally Posted by PokerM3
Here's a hand today against a reg , he is kinda aggro preflop, 3betting 33% in 100hands, he preferd 3betting usually when entering a pot. Post flop he didnt show a lot of aggression, played a bit tricky in some hands and he bets vs miss cbet around 65%.
Entraction $20.00 No Limit Hold'em - 2 players
2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked
BB: $41.19
Hero (BTN/SB): $22.05
Pre Flop: ($0.30) Hero is BTN/SB with 2  6
Hero raises to $0.60, BB raises to $1.80, Hero raises to $4, BB calls $2.20
Flop: ($8.00) 8  Q  6 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks
Turn: ($8.00) K (2 players)
BB bets $5.20, Hero raises to $18.05, BB folds
Final Pot: $18.40
Hero wins $4.80
(Rake: $0.75)
I had the option of folding pre but i wanted to feel up this guy.
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vnh
gl, will be following!
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02-21-2011, 03:50 PM
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newbie
Join Date: Nov 2010
Posts: 40
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Re: HUCASH challenge
Lately I've been struggling in cash but I've also started to play some HuSnGs again where the money are easier , at least to me, and I will continue with both.
Some nasty hands :
Entraction $20.00 No Limit Hold'em - 2 players
2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked
BB: $25.32
Hero (BTN/SB): $21.76
Pre Flop: ($0.30) Hero is BTN/SB with J  8
Hero raises to $0.60, BB calls $0.40
Flop: ($1.20) 9  J  8 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $0.90, BB raises to $2.40, Hero calls $1.50
Turn: ($6.00) 6 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $4.00, BB calls $4
River: ($14.00) K (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $5.00, BB calls $5
This guy seems a LaG regular (?) , capable of some weird stuff. I choose to play it this way cause I didn't wanna reraise flop which would put me sometimes in a bad spot, mainly gambling with the draws there so i decided to attack the turn and also river if I think he won't improve.
On river I choose that betsizing for value if he would've called with worse but also i leave him enough room to shove bluff which he is capable and I'm calling.
Same guy :
Entraction $20.00 No Limit Hold'em - 2 players
2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked
BTN/SB: $24.11
Hero (BB): $29.07
Pre Flop: ($0.30) Hero is BB with 6  6
BTN/SB raises to $0.60, Hero calls $0.40
Flop: ($1.20) 2  7  7 (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN/SB bets $0.90, Hero raises to $2.60, BTN/SB calls $1.70
Turn: ($6.40) A (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN/SB bets $4.40, Hero calls $4.40
River: ($15.20) Q (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN/SB bets $14.80, Hero calls $14.80
Same story, he is doing that with a lot of hands in his range for this call to be +eV.
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03-02-2011, 12:33 PM
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Official Site Representative
Join Date: May 2009
Posts: 255
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Re: HUCASH challenge
Hello PokerM3, this is Vicky from PerpetuumPoker.
I've been following your play for a while, so here's a couple of words from me. As a girl, I have my heart beating for you, my impression is that you're quite persistent and do have a future in poker  . As a room representative, I see that you had quite an impressive start, but then somewhat slowed down.. Things happen, but if you keep on going and give more attention to good quality poker, - chances are, you can well win a Card Master prize package to the next EMOP event. Good luck and stay in touch!
Regards,
Vicky
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03-02-2011, 02:58 PM
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self-banned
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Champions League, here we come!!!
Posts: 2,659
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Re: HUCASH challenge
Interesting thread.
Nice to see some HU micro cash grinders. I similarly to you built up my roll from sngs, but got bored of them, so converted to cash (where the real $ is made).
Won nicely at NL25, and now grinding NL50 HU on FTP, and will soon be moving up to NL100 HU!
From your HH, it's clear you're pretty good -
The 97s hand, I don't actually mind 3-betting vs a good reg. It's a decent hand to do it with, and you have to mix it up, and balance your 3B range vs good players. Make it a little larger though. As mentioned, btn min raisers like to call 3-bets, to raising from $0.40 to $1.40 isn't really big enough, make it at least $1.60 there probably $1.80 or $2 i prefer! Of course, if this player was a total fish, don't 3-bet hands like these. Just play solid and straight forward, and wait for him to donk off his stack.
The way you played QJ is absolutely standard. Don't know why you suggest shoving the turn, that would be mad bad! V-betting the river might be thin, if he's a nit, but it's so likely you have the best hand, betting can never be bad.
Really like the way you played the 26s hand too, although it's not a great hand to 4-bet IMO (Ax or Kxs are better, with blockers to big hands, and chances of hitting good top pairs), but as played is really great I think. Could stove it, and do a little calculation, but I'm positive that this is a +EV play vs any villain, + you may have had a good read that he'd fire turn light, so nh!
Good luck, will be following!
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03-02-2011, 05:28 PM
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newbie
Join Date: Nov 2010
Posts: 40
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Re: HUCASH challenge
@EasyMoney92
Thank you for your attention and comments! Will be posting some hands soon.
@Vicky (PerpetuumPoker)
Thanks for the kind words! I slowed down only on Perpetuum for a few days to concentrate a bit more on hu sngs and mtts, didnt think will count too much though. Im right back on HUCASH!
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