As of this writing I have received no further communication from CS on either here (2p2) or Skype.

I'm going to go ahead and write off the $440 as a loss. It's unfortunate that it had to come to this. Perhaps equally unfortunate is that an another individual was willing to continue staking CS despite knowing he owed multiple members of the poker community thousands of dollars.

Has anyone seen him playing on stars since he went missing on skype/2p2?

Somebody should PM his backer. He probably knows more than we do.

He took a break from poker for a month. That's all I know. I did suggest that he should address this thread a few days ago. I'd like to get a hold of him to talk but he comes online for a few minutes then leaves.

No he hasnt been playing poker this month, i havent seen him at the zoom tables for awhile now

Mods should change thread to "chills 2014:get out of debt"

Seriously though, this is pretty ridiculous. Chill is clearly very busto or otherwise just straight up scamming people. Both coaching situations are obvious refunds, and it's been explained pretty clearly throughout this thread.

On a side note, I'ts not his backers responsibility to pay back those that he scammed for coaching, unless perhaps he and backer had some type of deal for the coaching, which I've never heard of. At this point since it seems pretty clear he's broke, him getting backed again is everyone who's owed best chance of getting paid back. hope this can get resolved

no wonder hes broke, was god awful player when played with him at zoom, feel sorry for the people who paid and even got the coaching, nvm the people who actually got scammed.

Don't wanna defend someone who I think is in the wrong but this is clearly just speculation and quite frankly his financial affairs are none of your business and you certainly shouldn't be discussing them. There are more reasons to take a break from poker then just being broke but yes him not refunding the coaching payments yet could suggest financial trouble but again it doesn't reflect well on yourself to discuss/speculate over someone else's financial situation.

lol

That's not speculation as I make no mention of his situation, just what everyone could assume.

Edit: Bolded key word for you.

I think when you write a blog about being a high stakes poker player who is going to achieve xyz over a period of time: and you leave without much explanation and a bit of controversy. Then I think you have opened a door by which people can speculate on that persons financial state.

I would think the line would be if the poster had not disclosed his real life name....maybe then it would require moderator decisions on whether that was appropo. But saying lol obviously he is having financial difficulties - is a logical conclusion and an obvious issue to discuss.

How could someone playing the highest stakes of ZOOM not have like 4 spare buyins lying around somewhere to pay back coaching refunds? Even if he is being staked, I can't imagine not having at least a few thousand in the bank if you're a 500NL grinder.

100%

He set these hefty goals when starting this thread. Those very likely helped attract people looking for coaching. If he had been anywhere near his goals he would have $1000 lying round to refund the guy.

The whole start of the thread is so misleading. The title even... if he won $200k at the tables when he was staked would that really be considered profit? Not in my book anyway.

I'd be very alarmed if I was paying that kind of money for a supposed seasoned successful pro, who it then turns out has hidden the fact he is cash broke and staked. It is extremely close to scamming and it's not the first time it has happened in this sub-forum.

That's the result, when ppl wants to get better in a month and get coachings from random unknown and unproven persons.

Hahahaha your screenname nails it

So what is it then?

A percentage of it would would be his profit. The rest would be his backer's.

To the stakeholders in this situation yes I think they can speculate as they have a vested interest, everyone else who is an outsider I think it's just bad form (I was brought up this way so perhaps that's where the confusion lies).

lol so if you're staked now, the money you win at the tables isn't really considered profit?

Do you see pink elephants instead of trees?

money won - backers % = YOUR PROFIT

Well when your playing live strictly after Black Friday, you no longer keep up with who is who in the community. I came to 2 + 2- site I trust to ftw some coaching for my live 6 max game from the best possible person that crushing at the time in the game I play. I did some searching and this thread and his results did attract me so that the reason why I booked the 2k . Obv a mistake and with more research and planning I could of saw is lol sample at 500 and compare his 200 and looked for a better option. I really wish I don't have to write this off and get paid so I'm going to hope for the best and he can restore his name and faith. If he created another name and account I hope he dies and if we ever meet up I will make sure I get what mine one way or another . We all know your face

He has still made 200k table profits then. They're just not all his. So what exactly is your point? If he makes 200k but has to give up 100k it's now less impressive or something? I mean are you goin somewhere with your so far useless point?

His point is hes portraying that he has more money than he does. His goal was to make $200k but he didn't let on he is backed, and $200k would be more like $100k total profit.

Also don't understand how saying the guy is broke is just speculation, he has already said he has 0 liquid cash.

It's just that he's not portraying that. Not even close. He set a goal to make 200k profit this year. Where ever that money goes is irrelevant. If he makes 200k profit he has reached that goal.

Fwiw this is completely pointless but I don't see why he has to say he's backed or why it's relevant he doesn't get to keep all his profits. If he would make 200k profit this year that would be very impressive whether he gets to keep 200k or 10$.

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