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02-28-2012, 06:47 PM
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Carpal \'Tunnel
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Auckland
Posts: 7,853
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Re: Chasing SNE in 2012 playing..?
Had a short session this morning. Played 108 hypers, ran ok and was up $208 pre rakeback. Most were 100s, including a few 9mans. Also played a few 30s (6m) and at some points made quite a few misclicks cause of too many tables (20 with no hotkey set ups, especially when a few tables are 3 handed or heads up).. I prob had a few bad games up too because I just loaded every game that ran but most games seemed ok for the most part.
Then played a short 50 minute session of CAP and got in 1654 hands in at 3/6 + 2/4 (mostly 6m, a little FR) and ran pretty good, +995 prerakeback there, EV was -$250 lol. Tried to avoid tables without any fish (even though a table with a single fish isn't necessarily a great one to play).
I'm on 85554.94, was really wanting to get to 100K before the end of this month (even though that's still obviously quite a lot behind pace) but seems unlikely now.. Been catching up on some coaching work and been doing quite a lot of stuff in real life. Will try post some interesting hands etc in the future (mostly from CAP I guess)..
NL Holdem $6(BB) Replayer
SB ($421)
BB ($421)
UTG ($120)
Hero ($253)
CO ($190)
BTN ($320)
Dealt to Hero K  A
fold, Hero raises to $12, CO calls $12, BTN raises to $120, fold, fold, Hero calls $108, CO calls $108
FLOP ($369) A  5  6
TURN ($369) A  5  6  9
RIVER ($369) A  5  6  9  8
BTN shows 7  7
(Pre 42%, Flop 12.1%, Turn 9.5%)
Hero shows K  A
(Pre 36%, Flop 86.8%, Turn 85.7%)
CO shows 9  K
(Pre 22%, Flop 1.1%, Turn 4.8%)
Hero wins $366
[ ] Interesting
Last edited by OMGClayDol; 02-28-2012 at 06:58 PM.
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02-28-2012, 07:10 PM
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#17
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newbie
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: The world is my home
Posts: 29
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Re: Chasing SNE in 2012 playing..?
nice overcall with K9s ^^
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02-29-2012, 09:44 AM
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Carpal \'Tunnel
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Auckland
Posts: 7,853
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Re: Chasing SNE in 2012 playing..?
Had a short session and am at 87790VPP now.. Ran pretty bad and dropped like 1K from hypers and 1k from a few 6m turbos which I obv bricked lol (200/300/500).
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02-29-2012, 10:13 AM
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old hand
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Yes its in Europe somewhere.
Posts: 1,465
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Re: Chasing SNE in 2012 playing..?
Hey GL, u mention u will play 24 tables of cap? And all of that 6max? How can u manage it.. I am playing about 18 and its going really fast, i have tables stacked though, i see some players prefeer them tiled?
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02-29-2012, 10:20 AM
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#20
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Carpal \'Tunnel
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Auckland
Posts: 7,853
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Re: Chasing SNE in 2012 playing..?
Thx, gl to you too. I play mostly 6m but a few FR tables especially during off-peak. I usually just stack but if I get lazy I just have a bunch of stuff in no particular position lol. Sometimes, especially if there is a lot of 3 handed etc, and I'm getting a lot of hands/time I'll just hotkey and stack it. Ideally I'd probably tile (I do have 2 large screens) and use hotkeys, as this way I could see a lot more information (such as ranges villains are 3-bet capping etc) without having to do study after the session but I haven't set that up yet.. I do misclick a bit, but pretty sure once I set up some decent hotkeys that will occur way less. If you can do 18 I'm pretty sure if you practice a bit more you can do 24 ok. But obv your winrate is better at 18 then 24 etc..
Also the more tables you play the worse your overall game selection will be, it's quite tough (unless you mass-waitlist, etc) to get 24 decent tables in general imo, and more importantly, as fish break etc you will notice far slower than if you had a lot less tables. Some of the regs (most commonly at high stakes) play pretty few tables and tile everything, and as soon as the fish/es leave the table they sit out, whereas ppl like us who just stack a bunch of tables prob don't notice very quick at all. There are some people who hate this bumhunting etc but at the end of the day their win rate will be higher.
Bare in mind this is coming from a guy who has a lifetime sample size of like 32k hands, mass-tabling with very little game selection ;/
Been marking a lot more ppl (for hypers/sngs too) so hopefully this will improve.. My results, especially for sngs look really ugly for a while now and sub-optimal game selection is a huge reason (in addition to just general mass-tabling etc).. For the 100s, depending on how the lobbies are I might actually play mostly 30s with just the good 100s cause sometimes the lobbies for the 100s are really, really, really bad and the 30s are usually decent. If the 30s are also not good then I look at CAP and/or consider play the good 30s and 100s and a few CAP or normal turbo sng tables or w/e.
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03-01-2012, 09:16 PM
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#21
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Carpal \'Tunnel
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Auckland
Posts: 7,853
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Re: Chasing SNE in 2012 playing..?
Another short session of hypers today, lobbies were pretty decent up until about now, which is the main reason I stopped (other than wanting to take a break in general)
Think I played mostly pretty well, but didn't run very well and ended down about $1300 or so.
"zzz vs. fish hand" of the session
NL Holdem $80(BB) Replayer
($1,738)
Hero ($1,262)
Dealt to Hero 5  3
Hero raises to $160, calls $80
FLOP ($336) 2  3  9
bets $240, Hero raises to $1,094 (AI), calls $854
TURN ($2,524) 2  3  9  J
RIVER ($2,524) 2  3  9  J  6
shows J  2
(Pre 57%, Flop 24.7%, Turn 95.5%)
Hero shows 5  3
(Pre 43%, Flop 75.3%, Turn 4.5%)
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03-01-2012, 09:43 PM
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#22
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Carpal \'Tunnel
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Auckland
Posts: 7,853
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Re: Chasing SNE in 2012 playing..?
Played a short session of CAP and won like $200, I was on like 249500FPP or something ridic so decided to play a few min to get a 4K bonus, thin brag obv.. At like 95K VPP now. Edit: Might try make 100k now with cap..
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03-01-2012, 09:57 PM
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Pooh-Bah
Join Date: Oct 2008
Posts: 4,202
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Re: Chasing SNE in 2012 playing..?
This will probably fall on the deaf ears of a 18 year old but dont miss the chance to finish uni/ get a trade/ experience in something when you still young enough to have these opportunities.
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03-01-2012, 11:28 PM
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Carpal \'Tunnel
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Auckland
Posts: 7,853
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Re: Chasing SNE in 2012 playing..?
Yea I gotta think about those things, and I hope I don't forget to.
Anyway the short session went pretty terrible, dropped maybe 1.5K or so. Feel like I'm just generally running bad atm, but whatever that's what you get when you chase SNE playing high variance games. Stopped the session before reaching 100K to take a break (since even though I don't feel I have tilt issues, I probably still play slightly worse if I've been running poorly for a session etc)
Will do some study before the next session probably. Lol; this thread is pretty depressing/uninteresting so far, I'll try post some updated graphs etc soon, hopefully will run a bit better first though =p
On 97.3K
Last edited by OMGClayDol; 03-01-2012 at 11:42 PM.
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03-02-2012, 03:17 AM
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#25
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aka plzjustHOLD
Join Date: May 2010
Location: London UK
Posts: 626
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Subbed
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03-02-2012, 08:15 AM
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Carpal \'Tunnel
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Auckland
Posts: 7,853
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Re: Chasing SNE in 2012 playing..?
Poker Stars, $193.05 Buy-in (40/80 blinds, 5 ante) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 8 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #12049452
Hero (CO): 1,395 (17.4 bb)
BTN: 2,035 (25.4 bb)
SB: 1,480 (18.5 bb)
BB: 3,040 (38 bb)
UTG+2: 2,945 (36.8 bb)
MP1: 1,635 (20.4 bb)
MP2: 1,105 (13.8 bb)
MP3: 1,365 (17.1 bb)
Preflop: Hero is CO with A  A
UTG+2 folds, MP1 raises to 240, MP2 folds, MP3 calls 240, Hero raises to 1,390 and is all-in, 4 folds, MP3 calls 1,120 and is all-in
Flop: (3,220) 9  A  J (2 players, 2 are all-in)
Turn: (3,220) 7 (2 players, 2 are all-in)
River: (3,220) K (2 players, 2 are all-in)
BB posts BB OOP, UTG+2 folds, MP1 bets 240, MP2 folds, MP3 calls 240, Hero raises to 1,390, 4 folds, MP3 calls 1,120
Results: 6,260 pot (3,110 rake)
Final Board: 9  A  J  7  K
Hero showed A  A  and won 30 (-2,725 net)
MP3 showed Q  T  and won 3,120 (395 net)
$200 Fifty50 kind of annoying hand, but whatever. These players are what make the games beatable obv. Was happy to get called by QTs pre, but that's not the best flop haha. Always a sweat!
Played a bunch of stuff since I was so close to SN, traffic is crappy around this time so I played hypers, a few fifty50s, a couple 18s and a few turbo 6ms. Ran decent overall and was up a little although was a little disappointed at how I ran in a few of the higher buy in turbo 6ms, felt like I kinda ran bad overall getting 2nd in a couple of 500s etc and there were a few lame bubble spots, such as a hand where I had A9s and 10BB and a reg decides to minraise into two 10BB stacks. (So basically reg on btn covers, SB/BB both have 10BB. Kinda lame but it's probably just a fold vs. most regs, without being results orientated.
At some point in the middle of the session I had like 25 tables up which was kinda bad because I have a lot of hypers, which get short handed very quick. As a result I probably missed a few spots/misclicked or calculated a few times etc so I'll try be a bit more careful about this in the future (it's been a problem in the past a few times in general).
VPP count is 100750 now
Graph of 100 hypers, 6m, so far. Basically a little worse than break even but I guess I'm happy (or at least not complaining) about that given how bad the variance can be, and that I didn't really game select/mixed formats and stuff. Unfortunately down $726 in 22 games of 9-man 100s.
As you can maybe judge from the last few posts, CAP hasn't been going great recently and I think it's a combination of table selecting, being new to the format + not really studying, playing too many tables and just variance evening itself out (since I did run pretty hot at the start, and my overall sample is obv still small). I think there is a huge amount of postflop in CAP, as surprising as that may seem to a lot of you, at least in order to obtain high winrates. I think I play ok, but in CAP, because of the effective stack sizes, balance is a LOT more important vs. good regs imo than even 100BB poker as villains can exploit your unbalanced tendancies repeatedly without you being able to realize quickly. For example, if someone c-bets 100%, you can just c/r 100%. Extreme example, and obv the problems for me are more advanced or whatever, but yeah. I think I still plan to play/improve on it, but might be taking a shortish break from it.
Last edited by OMGClayDol; 03-02-2012 at 08:34 AM.
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03-08-2012, 07:26 PM
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journeyman
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: space
Posts: 313
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Re: Chasing SNE in 2012 playing..?
have you given up on this the omg?? just i seen you playing alot of mtt's and 18mans and no updates ect. plus saw you disconnecting ouch thats got to be tilting unlucky man
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03-08-2012, 11:23 PM
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Carpal \'Tunnel
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Auckland
Posts: 7,853
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Re: Chasing SNE in 2012 playing..?
Hey man, nah definitely not given up. Just have been travelling a bit -> haven't really played, and was planning an update shortly  Will update within a few hours
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03-15-2012, 12:17 PM
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old hand
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: best to live lightly,unthinkingly
Posts: 1,288
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Re: Chasing SNE in 2012 playing..?
updates?
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03-21-2012, 02:16 AM
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#30
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Carpal \'Tunnel
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Auckland
Posts: 7,853
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Re: Chasing SNE in 2012 playing..?
Hey guys, sorry for the massive lack in updates. This is still happening!
For the past few weeks, I was mostly continuing to travel. This is the main reason that my volume has been pretty poor, and the reason I am behind pace. I spent all of January in Australia, mostly for the Aussie Millions live series. Then, early February I came back to New Zealand and stayed home for just a couple of weeks before travelling the North Island for a couple of weeks. I was travelling with a very close female friend, and we came back up for a Taylor Swift concert. Originally the plan was to leave straight after the concert, continue travelling the North Island, then the South Island, before going off to Fiji for a couple of weeks, followed by LA, USA for another couple of weeks. There, we would part and I'd travel to whereever I wanted (mostly places where I know poker people, Germany, Thailand, Estonia, etc). Photo taken during the Tongariro crossing. It was a pretty nice, long hike (a bit over 20KM, around 15miles) with some really nice scenery. I only have this photo I took on my iPhone at the moment so excuse the quality. (Side note, the people in the photo are randoms)
Since then, the plans have changed slightly. I am staying home for at least a couple of weeks now instead by myself whilst she starts the travelling of New Zealand by herself. This is going to give me the opportunity to pick up the pace a little, and also to start getting my coaching sorted. Both in terms of the students I have from 2p2, and from my stable. It has been pretty difficult in the last few months with all the travelling, and I've even taken down my coaching listing in the mean time as some of you may have noticed so I can take a temporary breather and more importantly keep things up to date for the current students. So in the next few weeks I'm going to be playing as much as possible, and also doing catch ups with coaching. I'm also going to be finally sorting out a few sessions of coaching, where I am the student, that should have been done a while ago.. The coaching is actually for games I'm not playing "that much", but should benefit me a lot in the long run. So far I have scheduled a couple of hours of HU Hyper SNG coaching and a couple of hours of full ring cash coaching. I'm also going to meet a few other New Zealand players in real life over the next week to hopefully learn some more about both 6-max and full ring 100bb play, where I feel competent but far from great at the moment.
I've been playing various games since the last update, high stake SNGs as usual and a bit of cash. I've mostly been playing short sessions, mixing in anything from hypers, fifty50s, 6m/9m reg/turbos, 18s and sometimes a few MTTs and 35/60 180s. I keep accidentally making the mistake of loading too many tables, not knowing how many games to reg for etc and this is pretty bad for my long term winrate (but "good" for my SNE chase I guess..). I need to talk to some SNG pros and figure out how they sort their set up out, at the moment I often end up getting something like 30+ tables, a lot of which are 6-max hyper or turbos (which become short handed very fast, and for the turbos you really should be concentrating since postflop is important, especially vs. the better regs). I'll try screenshot a search of myself the next time I remember this to give a better idea..
My sample size for any one particular type of game isn't very big at the moment, but I'm getting really destroyed in 9 mans and 18 mans. I don't consider myself a great or even good player in these, but at the worst I expect to be +EV after SNE rakeback in most of them and at the moment I'm running far below this. I think I'm down nearly 10k. To help the variance and just to improve my game in general I'll get around to getting some general SNG coaching.. sometime. Just too lazy to be honest...... I'm also apparently down 9k in MTTs this year, which is beyond standard given the sample size (332) but kind of annoying as it means I'll have to make this up from the profit of my other games. I'm still planning to sometimes play a MTT schedule especially on Sundays, but part of me also really wants to just avoid it because of the variance, even if the expectation is nice.
For SNGs this year so far. Before rakeback, after Supernova rakeback, and after Supernova Elite rakeback. The graph is what my winnings will approximately look like if/when I make SNE.
Also been playing some Zoom since it came out, at 100nl. The rake/hour isn't too bad (around $100 at the moment) when I 8-table (4 6-max, 4 Full Ring, the most allowed at the moment, and I don't want to mix in 25NL or something). If/when 200NL gets released I'll probably play that, especially if/when I get some coaching as I spoke of earlier. Also, I'll be more likely to play full ring 200nl than 6-max since it's softer/easier etc. Might start with 4 200fr, 4 100nl fr, 4 100nl 6-max or something. It's been pretty fun but the software is a tiny bit annoying (you often get a seat before your cards) sometimes. The game is generally pretty soft and the best thing about zoom is it's literally the best game to play in terms of convenience. I can load up as many tables as I want, anytime of the day and play for as little or long as I like. Even at offpeak times I can get in just as many hands as during peak. No need to table select/find good tables, close bad tables, etc. Sample size is irrelevant, 15k hands or so but I have been running pretty bad. 10BI below EV. EV bb/100 is I think around 4 (2ptBB) which is okay but I think I can definitely do better especially at 100NL. I was playing without a HUD for 99% of this since HEM hasn't updated for zoom yet, but recently downloaded a trial of PT3 and will probably being using one.
At around 161,000 VPPs this year, pace is like 224,000 I think. For those of you who are curious, if I play a session of SNGs that isn't really short (maybe like 6 hours) I get around 9-10K VPP.
I'll try to update more often, to avoid future posts being this damned tl;dr in the future. Thanks for reading, gl everyone
No one cares, but here are my two new wallpaper/lock screens chosen by my friend
Last edited by OMGClayDol; 03-21-2012 at 02:39 AM.
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